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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Kinda exposes the lie about entrepreneurship being about job creation. Not all high tides raise all ships.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Gonna piggy back off this to drop a decent summary from coffeezilla about valve's lootbox gambling problem that Valve has consistently dodged responsibility on. It's really not new news but folks should be informed/reminded of it nonetheless.

I don't watch CoffeeZilla in any large amount, but this pretty well sums up the situation in this instance.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's funny that these publications only learned that this year when Valve has had a publicly available company directory on their website with names, pictures and email addresses since forever.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

They didn't just learn about it there have been articles about it for years and years they just post the same old article from a few years ago and act like it's new

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A great deal of that money comes Valve running an illegal underage casino, and getting young kids addicted to gambling.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Valve running an illegal underage casino

Valve doesn't run the casino. Valve owns the real estate under the casino and collects a rent. The casino is run by a kaleidoscope of fly-by-night marketing firms after being constructed with sweatshop labor from development studios in countries with abysmal labor laws.

Turns out, it takes very few employees to be the landlord of a casino. But the casino can't make money without a battalion of scammy sales shits and a legion of cheap construction workers. Valve can't make money without these workers. But because it collects rents on the real estate rather than revenues on the casino itself, it doesn't need to include these staffers in its accounting books.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Valve is directly responsible for skins in Counter Strike which are gotten with 100% gambling mechanics. The fact that they can be sold for real life cash adds to this. I'm not saying its only Valve doing this, plenty of other games on Steam as well, but they certainly have a horse in the race.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Agreed, we should not make it seem like Valve has no responsibility just because it doesn't directly own the casinos, gambling sites, etc. They benefit financially from the way the whole system is set up and they know it. Every round and transaction directly benefits Valve financially. The more underage people get addicted to the casino system they have going on, the more money Valve gets.

I mean, who made the GUI a copy of a slot machine?

They could end this whole thing tomorrow if they wanted to.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (26 children)

No, there's companies that abuse valves market for their underground casinos.

I honestly don't get why you are mad at valve when they are not even in the slighest involved in that process apart from offering the market system. That's like being mad at cloudflare or AWS because a website that scams you uses it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's because Epic Games is spending a shitload of money astroturfing these idiots into believing that Valve is personally running a massive counter strike casino and you need to THINK OF THE CHIILLLLDREEEEEEEN.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which is ironic because fortnite is specifically tailored to children/teens and has had lootboxes until they got sued, had to remove it and were like: "Oh actually we always though lootboxes were stupid :( so we removed them :( pls like us :(."

Now they're probably trying to harm valve this way, which is dumb because counter strike is rated 18+.

And yeeees, no kid gives a shit about age rating - well aware of that. But I'm not sueing porn sites because kids can access porn with just clicking "Yes" on the popup.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Aren't the kids mostly playing Fortnite and not Counter Strike? Doesn't Fortnite outright advertise to children, have FOMO practices design to keep people addicted and spending money, and promote gun violence.

Well we need to see Valve in court over this how dare they make, host, and promote Fortnite!

Wait.... Valve doesn't make, promote or host Fortnite...

Curious

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[–] jaemo 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fucking lol. The lengths you things go to. Just shaking my head at how fucking stupid you must think the average person is. What an incredibly hostile world you have to live in.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (16 children)

I hope the employees are compensated well compared to the profit.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 days ago (3 children)

As of 2021, Valve employees made roughly $430K-4.5M, depending on role. Not bad, considering the average salary in WA is around $58k.

Source:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/13/24197477/valve-employs-few-hundred-people-payroll-redacted

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