Arch Linux user be like
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i mean you still update on your command, its just that you update all the stuff at once, and theres virtually almost always an update at a given time.
Yeah and also you can just kinda do it in the background without much concern about it eating all your CPU or taking forever like Windows Updates does.
Also won't take several minutes when you shutdown to do the "Preparing Updates.... Don't shut off your PC" like Windows.
What kind of 2005 toaster are you running where Windows update eats up your CPU or takes minutes to shut down?
Even my 10 year old PC doesn't do that.
Our servers do, my work laptop does, my old home laptop does, my home PCs do, ... I guess it must be the updates and not the device.
I mean.
You don't have to update every day. Or whatever.
My system is set to check for updates only once a month, because the rest of the time I want to be using it.
They like it
I actually like it
I'm actually encouraged to update often because if I don't, the updates keep accumulating and I end up with 200+ apps and dependencies that require such updates. Not that I'm affected or anything, I don't even need to re-start my machine, and pacman works in the background. So, It's been a positive experience over all. So yay! Updates!
Fedora isn't any better. 10-40 Packages every day.
Meanwhile I update for fun on my Linux boxes every time I use them. The experience is just... Chef's kiss
Windows making me update every time - rage
Linux, first thing I open on startup is terminal for sudo zypper dup - joy
Mac Users: shit, my 2019 laptop can't be updated to the latest OS-Version. And now I only got fake security updates.
Laughs in opencore legacy patcher
Is zypper ref not required first I was never super clear on that
I fucking love running updates on garuda. Watching the little ASCII pacmans gobbling up the progress bar... And it doesn't do it unless I tell it to so I never have the windows experience of "I just wanna play a game,oh look, 10 minutes of updates instead. Guess I'll go make a sandwich..."
Yeah. Pacman/yay is just cute like that.
Windows 10 users, I've been using kill-update.exe for years now to only update Windows when I damn well want to.
Disclaimer: before the inevitable dogpile, yes, this is bad practice. Yes there are many reasons why you might not want to do this. Yes, allowing your software to update itself whenever it wants is safer. No, I don't care. If you don't care either, this software might be for you.
Totally justifiable IMO. In my day-to-day life its much more important that my shit works when I need it to than that I get whatever potentially something-breaking latest hotfix patch for everything on my system. Put simply: My OS, and the packages I use, work. If I don't update, I'm sure it will also keep working. When I have time for an update to break something, or want to pull in some new feature or patch, I'll run an update.
I don't know WHAT you're talking about! My windows xp pc hasn't had an update in YEARS!!!
NixOS lets you update just what you want, when you want, and it even lets you roll them back at any time.
I update every single day AND my computer always works.
Maybe this is due to my flake setup, but the way I currently update (nix flake update, then nixos-rebuild) I can only update everything at once. At times, this can feel clunky compared to e.g. arch which lets me update individual packages. Do you have any suggestions on how to do partial updates?
You can add another revision of nixpkgs as a flake input and use that revision for certain packages. Its not as ergonomic as in Arch (even though they officially dont support partial upgrades). But its still possible and having a stable and unstable flake input usually does the job for me.
The best part is I can let the terminal run in background and continue working on my stuff without having to wait or restart
It's because developers have stopped trusting users to update and not become an expletive filled customer service call when not updating inevitably leads to a security failure.
Hate those forced updates, first because years ago when laptops came with hdd, the updates where endless. Then i hated it again when an update fucked all the pen tablet softwares and devices. photoshop and etc became unusable for a while, whas a nightmare. if they force only security updates im ok, but this is not the case, they add new funny features that i dont need and drop support for things that works and i use for work.
i miss the old control panel times...
I'm not ok with allowing a security loophole, they just call everything security and force it. It's my device, I get to decide what software belongs on it.
neither do i, not long ago i updated because windows was screaming for it, then magically microsoft Ai assistant feature appears!
That's how I came up with my Username
Every once in a while I get a popup from POP_OS.
"Hey, got some updates. Great stuff. You wanna... No? That's cool. You're busy, I get it."
Pop has been great. I feel like I own my computer again.
stays vulnerable to zero days
Yeah, so great.
My view has always been that: “The most popular OS in the works will always need security updates frequently”. That’s true of Linux as well, if it ever broke Windows’ numbers.
That said, Windows has also fucked that argument by forcing unnecessary search additions and browser defaults in those updates.
You can just make that unnecessary Windows additions. No one asked Microsoft to force copilot or recall or ads or.... On to our systems.
I never had a negative experience with Windows Updates
It just puts a notification in my taskbar but can be easily dismissable
For me it’s more like “WTF are they going to break this time?”
Seems mostly a vehicle for MS to try and force new products onto people who wouldn’t download them if they had a choice.
I had one back in the vista days (I had the pro version it wasn't totally terrible) that bricked my laptop and I had to do a clean install from bios to get it working again. That was fun.
For me it was a mix of that, plus "great, so you're going to close everything maybe was using, sometimes restart some of it, and everything is going to be on the wrong screen and virtual desktop. Now that I've spent several minutes getting back to where I was yesterday, let's see what garbage I don't want that you've added"
Linux has its own inconveniences, but I don't regret the switch... It gets better every day while windows gets worse
For me, it's mainly "why tf is my old ass laptop suddenly chugging harder than a 40yo chain smoker?"
On Mint I enjoy updating so much that I got a bunch of flatpaks so I can update a lot more often. Might add more to feel more good.
Enlightened linux users right now
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Windows really do be like that
To turn away from the "go hard onto Linux" tropes, try Windows Update Blocker (WuB). I've been using it to pick when my machine, as well as friends and families machines, update. Every month or so, you need to turn updates back on by using it and updating the OS, but it can be scripted to enable/disable updates at any time, if you don't feel like thinking about it. It not only blocks if but protects from reenabling updates by that fucking medic service that will try to turn it back on when the machine is idle.
can't you disable auto restart with some tweaker (e.g. SophiApp)?
I disabled it by installing a tweaker called Fedora. Tweaked windows right the fuck off my hard drive it did.
It... only updates once a month, though. The second Tuesday of every month.
Any other updates are from the manufacturer/ software developer and not from Microsoft.