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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't and haven't seen anything worthwhile coming from that server. Just adult kids making themselves mad about things

[–] ohellidk 23 points 2 weeks ago

that's their thing...

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

What on earth did sh.itjust.works do?

I saw that Beehaw defederated from them, and it's just confusing to me. There's all kinds of weird nonsense coming from lemmy.world, that defederation makes complete sense to me, but... what did sh.itjust.works do? They seem fine.

What are the toxic communities? Did I just miss them so far? I really don't understand.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For Beehaw, it's for historical reasons. In June 2023 LW and SJW became the largest instances, and hence had the largest number of toxic users. Beehaw estimated that the moderators were not doing enough to moderate those users, thus defederated.

If you look at Beehaw, they are still on 0.18.3. It's unclear whether they will switch to another software like Piefed or Mbin, but they don't want to update to the latest Lemmy versions.

Being defederated from LW and SJW cuts them from most of the users and content, but they seem happy that way.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

Beehaw is pretty much whatever that one admin wants. They post constantly and want to get rid of anything they don't personally like.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Makes perfect sense, thank you.

[–] PaupersSerenade 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My understanding is that we had open registration and that led to a very small amount of spam posters. Apparently we were a moderation concern.

I’ve certainly downvoted people in this instance but I can’t remember the last time something particularly egregious occurred

[–] Corkyskog 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I never understood why people are so quick to defederation. The block button seems to work for me.

[–] taladar 3 points 2 weeks ago

That might work for a personal account but as a mod or admin that isn't really an option if users from another instance regularly come to your community to cause trouble.

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[–] SolOrion 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

SJW hosts two communities that probably generate 99% of the issues/hate our instance gets: NonCredibleDefense, which is basically just edge-y military shitposting, and this community which is entirely based around making fun of tankies.

In NCD some of the takes can be really hot, but I'm usually pretty sure it's a joke. Sometimes it can go too far, though.

This com is fine idk. Unless you're a tankie and you come here to read about yourself getting mocked, I guess.

[–] goat 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tankies are allowed in this community so long as they can behave

[–] SolOrion 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't mean to imply they aren't allowed- just that I don't think anyone would really consider this community an issue unless they're a tankie that's mad about being mocked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They are kind of mad about everything tho

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

NCD is easy to tell if it's a joke. If it sounds like it's out of a looney tunes episode or something that should be, (but isn't yet) a war crime... Then they are completely serious. If they're giving anything that sounds like credible analysis then they're joking.

As an example, advocating the use of "Rods from God". Those are tungsten telephone poles accelerated towards the planet from orbit. They are not nuclear but you wouldn't know the difference from the result.

Versus soberly relaying that Western Anti Tank Missiles are having trouble tracking Russian tanks due to burner pots the tanks drag behind them.

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[–] goat 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Beehaw defederated from everyone and wanted to become their own thing. Didn't work out well for them. I joined beehaw initially and then got banned after I commented on a post asking how queer people feel about queer movements. I said pride today is largely just advertising and virtue signalling instead of actual activism, that I only ever had my sexuality questioned by queer folk as opposed to religious or straight folk. I got banned. Anyone commenting anything negative about their experiences also got booted.

SJW is more of a moralist community with some conservatism, at least from my experience. Back when it was popular, everything was driven by community input and voting.

I'd like to move this community to .world since it's larger, but there's no way to transfer communities and I don't think the Lemmy devs are quite willing to add any such feature

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I’d like to move this community to .world since it’s larger, but there’s no way to transfer communities and I don’t think the Lemmy devs are quite willing to add any such feature

Please don't. LW centralization is already quite bad, and prevents Aussie.zone from staying uptodate

[–] 31337 5 points 2 weeks ago

.world is a little too block/defederation-happy. I moved from .world to SJW because they blocked a piracy community.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

4chan being used as a derogative by Hexbear has made my day. I'll take anon any day of the week.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

But at least 4chan produces funny greentexts

[–] Yerbouti 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The funny part about shitjustworks is that it pretends to be bilingual eng/fr. That's the main reason I've joined, but I haven't seen a single post in French so far.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Sidebar is bilingual. Most of the French speaking Canadian communities are on Lemmy.ca, the rest on Jlai.lu

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Omlete du fromaaaage

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Je suis bien d'accord avec toi.
J'aimerais qu'on héberge plus de contenu francophone, mais ultimement je ne contrôle pas si les gens génèrent leur contenu dans une ou l'autre des langues.
J'en suis coupable aussi... il y a tellement d'anglais que j'ai tendance à l'utiliser par défaut.
Quoique je passes plus de temps à gerer le spam qu'autre chose ces temps-ci.

Sinon... et je sais que ce n'est pas grand chose... mais vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide d'un admin en francais si vous avec un problème qui requiert un admin. (En l'occurrence moi 😅)

[–] Yerbouti 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Merci pour la réponse! Espérons qu'il y aura un peu plus de contenu en français éventuellement.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 7 points 2 weeks ago

Oui, après... c'est un peu a chacun de nous d'en faire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Y a "jai.lu" qui est en francais, mais sur quel serveur, je ne me souviens plus.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah oui, merci !

[–] rc__buggy 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] stringere 4 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] ZombiFrancis 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We do get a lot of greentexts. I mean, greentexts, NCD, and this place are the core communities filling my Local feed. Whitepeopletwitter has been pretty frequent but pretty low engagement recently though.

I typically opt for All to read .world and .ml debatelording.

[–] stringere 8 points 2 weeks ago

I typically opt for All to read .world and .ml debatelording.

It is good fun. Thank you for adding debatelording to my lexicon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

If you put md at the very beggining of a code block, it'll be formatted as a greentext on certain displays.

> be me
> posting greentext on lemmy
> teaching the trick to others
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[–] goat 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's true. We could use some more diversity in posting

[–] DumbAceDragon 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They're not entirely wrong. The amount of right-wingers and complete dumbasses I've seen on this instance is quite a bit higher than most other instances.

But still like, an inconsequential amount.

[–] goat 3 points 2 weeks ago

got any examples?

[–] goat 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] captain_aggravated 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

twitter is Ride to Hell Retribution. Facebook is ET for 2600. Instagram is Overwatch 1.

Lemmy is Goat Simulator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

goat isn't simulated...

[–] goat 9 points 2 weeks ago

he's so fucking stupid

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