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A Thread for Tankies (sh.itjust.works)
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Tankies welcome



Feel free to share your educated and polite opinion.

Within reason, of course. The strict rules of MoG still apply, but so long as you are fair, respectful and truthful, you shouldn't have to worry about these.

When arguing your points, try to aim for quality over quantity--no one will sift through Gish gallop. Try to keep your sources at 3 points. When sourcing your material, you should use MBFC and link sources with High-to-Very High in Factual Reporting.

Don't be ashamed or cautious about linking your main account. It'll allow others to see if you're arguing in good faith.

You can insult others but expect to be insulted or banned in return. If you want to convince people, try to be polite and understanding and attempt to find an agreement before a disagreement.

Try to avoid voting. It muddies discussion. This goes for non-tankies too.

Follow the rules.

Some rules are leaner here. You still cannot justify atrocities, but you can celebrate and encourage good things that communist states have put forth, whether it's art, technology, or sociological progress.


Just as a refresher of these rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules.

Hate-Speech -- You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia -- (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism or any variation of Tankie Ideology. There is no justifying Genocide.

Revisionism -- Downplaying or denying atrocities past and present will result in an immediate ban.

Bans typically only last seven days, but repeat infractions will have longer sentences. You may ask to be unbanned.


So, please! Talk about your woes on our world and its diverse societies.

hey (:(here's a challenge, try to make your arguments without mentioning the US)

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The original was from MSN posted by a db0 user. Hexbear and ML users argued it's fake and asked for proofs. OP got some as a non-speaker, then I researched it myself and wanted to add what I've found, but the post got deleted before I replied.

So here is an english article about that: https://khpg.org/en/1608813775

And my comment with russian language proofs.

Local news site based in his hometown about that: http://www.uezdny-gorod.ru/novosti/litseist-iz-liven-prigovoryen-voennym-sudom-k-pyati-godam-kolonii-za-uchastie-v-terroristicheskoy-or.html Federal registry information is at the bottom, so it's legal status with russian gov is verifiable.

I'd add an article from one of the oldest NGO Memorial to add to what you posted: https://memopzk.org/figurant/turbin-arsenij/ They are specialized on repressions too, but originally on rehabilitating soviet political prisoners and collecting historical data in archives. Not now, though.

I'm a native speaker and after googling around I conclude that sources that are loyal to power doesn't mention Арсений Турбин at all and many but one post in VK about his sentence are banned via the order of Генпрокуратура originated in the first day of war. More about this order that's used against maaany resources: https://roskomsvoboda.org/en/post/ban-1500-ssylok/

As a bonus: I think I've found his VK page. Name fits, city fits, soccer interests fit, age is faked by adding years to avoid age restrictions, political position is not democratic but rather pro-Wagner and anti-Putin, more like an 'angry patriots' crowd. Not a direct link due to good taste rules, but he is googlable by his name I put in bold and the end of his handle is numbers. This account is new but it's created and started posting before the war. These articles mention another status in his bio, but as it wasn't posted, I can't tell if someone changed it - yet, it also tracks with Prigo worship.

My opinion #1: The boy is real, he is charged and his process is silenced in federal news, everything posted kinda tracks. We can't verify his connection to the armed russian fighters on ukrainian side, but he doesn't like Putin and was fanboying after Prigo's macho vibes, so he could try to contact them, and then dropped it? That part of the story is told by NGOs with a big local rep, so I trust them to fill that hole.

My opinion #2: OP has probably mistaken ML instance for another one and after the mods noticed it (and proofs started to appear) they deleted the post due to their bias alone.

I've not posted there yet, so if it doesn't fit, please tell me. Also, keep in mind that he is just a 15yo boy and he's hardly thinking for himself.

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disclaimer i have no opinion on this “media bias/fact check”, site. i just think the “don’t outsource critical thinking” comment is hilarious

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Edit: changed post to use Imgur link instead of downloading a file

What a bunch of fucking babies, lol

Alternative link in case media doesn’t load

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Goodness, I almost had a dangerous thought, like "The struggles we experience in Western countries largely have analogues in non-Western countries" instead of "Every Problematic Opinion(tm) held by non-Western societies is The West's fault"

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Entirely coincidentally, this is what will lead the German Volk to Overcome the Timid English Shopkeeper(tm)

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After someone mentioned me without tagging me on the Return2Ozma thread drama, I decided to Lemmy search my name to see what else I was missing out on. I didn't realize I was so popular with the "People who defend tankies" demographic of Lemmy! Apparently, I'm a brainrotted liberal debate lord (simultanously, without any beliefs) who hates every leftist movement in existence, is a wedge between liberals and leftists, and sees imaginary tankies everywhere.

I mean, obviously, since I've made a whole 9 posts about them, including posts on "MeanwhileOnGrad" (5 if you exclude MeanwhileOnGrad and TankieJerk), over my past year on the Fediverse (out of ~1,570 total posts). Clearly, if it wasn't for me, the leftists would have finally joined hands with the liberals to sing kumbaya together.

That's a lot of work I have to put in when all I want to do is browse politics and post history minutiae without having to worry about people advocating genocide or fascism, but I wouldn't want to disappoint any of them!

Also, apparently they think I'm Yeetpics? Which is a strange connection to make, considering our writing styles are... very different.

EDIT: And Joe Biden's strongest warrior! Wow!

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What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world's main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It's literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I'm genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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For bonus points, they said 'liberal' at the start of every quote to the point of semantic satiation

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Documenting hate-speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse


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Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules.

Hate-Speech -- You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia -- (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism or any variation of Tankie Ideology. There is no justifying Genocide.

Revisionism -- Downplaying or denying atrocities past and present will result in an immediate ban.

Bans typically only last seven days, but repeat infractions will have longer sentences. You may ask to be unbanned.


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