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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That clock placement is giving me anxiety

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

what's there to not like about ~7:40PM~?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's probably one of the updates

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The clock updates every minute.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I haven't updated it in years for fear of this Y2K issue. What's ahead for me guys?

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[–] Mouselemming 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Side note: "I'mma" is a contraction of the whole phrase "I'm going to" or "I'm about to" so it's followed immediately by the verb indicating what you'll be doing:

"I'mma rawdog this sucker without backups."

Yes, I added sucker, because it's going to suck up all your time and data, sucka!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Op should have used "I'm finna rawdog this jawn no backup style"

For no reason other than mixed US slang from different regions sounds funnier to my ear

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

"no backup style" hits just right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve always thought of it as I am gonna

[–] Mouselemming 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's the lightly slangy version I would normally use, but as long as I was being pedantic I thought I'd better avoid any contractions in that part.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Average rolling release distro user experience

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Not if you update every 4 hours ;-)

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yolo, friend. yolo.

what packaging system?

[–] gravitas_deficiency 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Duct tape and baling wire, perhaps?

[–] Bakkoda 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Strapping tape and cardboard is way cleaner.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

don't forget the spit! pulls everything together nicely - lubricates, seals and protects.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Op, it's been an entire day... How'd did it go?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

He's dead, Jim

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

2,409 updates could mean like two days of restarts... I'm just going to turn on some bagpipe music and stand on a hill in the wind looking out at the computer shaped clouds on the horizon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Light the signal fires.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 days ago

Just think of all the great things you're going to learn about emergency boot recovery!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago

Just do a fresh install man. I'm getting anxiety just by looking at it.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 48 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If forgetting/not wanting to update puts you in this hole, like… ever, you should really give an atomic distro some serious consideration.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Say more please? What's the advantage?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The system files aren't writable, instead you download a new system image when you want to update. No dependency hell or weird issues because these system images are all tested. Your system also keeps one or two old ones around and if by some chance something does go wrong you just select the old one at boot.

Downside is you're more limited on installing software. You can force install things the traditional way but that kinda defeats the point. Instead you have to use things like FlatPak or AppImages which covers most GUI apps you could want. For command line apps you will have to use something like DistroBox.

It's a trade off but for casual desktop users it is super stable and pretty simple. Updates come out daily (depending on distro) and they just get all their software from the software center app with a nice GUI.

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[–] Classy 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Maybe I'm just screaming into the void here, but does it seem like, as a person who is still relatively out of touch with linux, I don't necessarily have to update my Arch distribution whenever there are new updates available? I could theoretically just go on downloading new programs, uninstalling old ones, using everything as it sits until theoretically something breaks?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

You'll run into security and stability problems if you put it off for too long.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

I don't necessarily have to update my Arch distribution whenever there are new updates available

Clearly, op agrees

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You should always run a full upgrade when installing a new package to make sure your versions are all in sync. Like if your new package is looking for version 1.1 and you have 1.0 installed, the new package won't work. In general, everything should be installed with 'pacman -Syu' not just 'pacman -S'

If you don't install any new packages, then no you don't need to upgrade anything. You're just missing out on security patches and upgraded features. It's worth running occasional upgrades.

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[–] azvasKvklenko 6 points 4 days ago

Iirc, the Arch wiki says you should synchronize all packages while adding new ones, and it’s technically unsupported. It might work in some cases, but personally I didn’t have to do much to not be able to launch something because symbols missing in libraries or no such file altogether. To avoid problems it’s better to sync packages fully at least once in a while.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I've updated an Arch install after not being used for 2 years. I don't think there were any issues.

I've experienced far more issues upgrading to a new major release of an apt based distro though...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

what did you do to that poor oldstable, you, you... monster!?!!?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That apt based distro was Ubuntu, wasn't it?
I never successfully upgraded that from one release to the next.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

It's my experience that Ubuntu and Fedora break if you don't upgrade often (and then suddenly do after a year), while arch doesn't... Which is interesting, since it's supposed to be the other way around...

I think it's because Fedora and Ubuntu add a lot of new things, while arch just updates it's packages.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they were never heard from AGAIN! Oooooooo It is horror month, and that's pretty scary! :-D

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't try to install Arch after midnight.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Praying for your computer, friend

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

It's been an hour, I think OP didn't make it!!!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And that is why I use Opensuse tumbleweed, no worries ever (zypper takes a snapshot before and after each upgrade, single command to roll back)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention that a two or three thousand package update is rookie numbers for zypper.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver 13 points 4 days ago

Thoughts and prayers fren

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (4 children)

@[email protected] it’s been 8 hours, did you make it?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

@[email protected] it's been almost 16hrs. Have you lost everything? Has your uncalculated gamble paid off?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Becareful with glibc

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