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Supporting Lemmy software development (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by kersploosh to c/announcements
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Hello, sh.itjust.works community!

A few months ago we began accepting donations to help cover the hosting and equipment costs of running this instance. We have been overwhelmed by your generosity and support! It truly exceeded our expectations. Thank you so much for helping to keep this instance running.

We would like to take an opportunity today to encourage everyone to also support Lemmy software development. We would not be here without the years of work that the software devs have put into creating this tool. There are certainly some users here with strong political opinions toward the lead developers. However, at the end of the day, we are all creating and maintaining this community together.

Nutomic recently posted a request for donations. Please take a look and consider sending some support their way:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/37276606

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[–] PlzGivHugs 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly, given most of the devs' track record in terms of things like recognizing human rights, I'm not particularly comfortable with giving them money.

One alternative for those who still want to support the Fediverse without giving money to tankies and transphobes would be donating to content creators or even commissioning work that can be shared here. Artists and those who make the content we consume deserve to be paid for their work, and esspecially if this work is Fediverse OC (or coming from a supporter of the Fediverse) it will still help maintain or expand the Fediverse. A social network is as much the content and users on it as it is the tech behind it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

One alternative for those who still want to support the Fediverse without giving money to tankies and transphobes

Another idea: Are there other fediverse compatible lemmy alternatives?

[–] PlzGivHugs 11 points 6 days ago

I think Mbin and Piefed are the two active ones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Kbin

I don't know how it's going, but a friend of mine was against Lemmy from the get go and dropped out of taking part in it, because of the people that jumped onto Lemmy to develop and how impossible it was to reason with them.

[–] iAmTheTot 10 points 6 days ago

Kbin died, forked to Mbin last I knew.

[–] Tigrafale 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is definitely a conflict for me. On the one hand, the money goes towards furthering the development of Lemmy. On the other hand, it goes towards (indirectly, but still) supporting Chinese and Russian online propaganda. Is there no one else contributing towards the development of Lemmy that we can donate to?

[–] PlzGivHugs 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Directly. Nutomic and the other dev mod and manage the tankie instances, and Nutomic himself is a known transphobe.

[–] TRAHR 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not giving a cent to those transphobes.

[–] Samskara 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Transphobes? Do you have a link?

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a new thread and an older pinned one in [email protected] that gives context.

[–] Samskara 1 points 3 days ago

This one https://sh.itjust.works/post/23147589

To me this looks like typical communist stuff blaming everything that happens on capitalism and the bourgeoisie.

[–] Cheradenine 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

New pinned comment from nutomic

Update: For those of you who want to support Lemmy development without financing the hosting of lemmy.ml, know that the hosting is paid exclusively through OpenCollective. You can see the payment details at this link. This means donations through all other platforms (Liberapay, Ko-fi, Patreon, Crypto) are exclusively for Lemmy development, and not a single cent goes to lemmy.ml hosting.

[–] mindbleach 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

... does that change who gets the money?

[–] Cheradenine 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, it still goes to Dessalines and nutomic. This just clarifies that donations are split, depending on how you donate, to .ml or to ~~tankies~~ the development of Lemmy.

The reason nutomic made this announcement was because there was a vocal push back by some users who want to support Lemmy, but do not want to support the .ml instance costs.

[–] mindbleach 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And in proper tankie fashion, it has the shape of that intent, but it doesn't seem to mean a damn thing. It is rhetorical cover.

The mascot for this service should be a trolley.

[–] Cheradenine 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There is this comment too, which contradicts what nutomic is now saying

In a recent discussion in the Matrix chat, it was mentioned that donations to support development have recently fallen off quite steeply. I mentioned my reason for not donating anymore is because I can't support anyone who runs an instance like .ml. [email protected] said I could donate directly to him since he doesn't do as much moderation over there, but also mentioned that donations for development go towards server costs for .ml. Hell no.

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/18374613

Edit: bolding is in the original comment, not mine

[–] TriflingToad 7 points 6 days ago

set up $1 monthly. Not a lot but it covers my impact

[–] masta_chief 6 points 6 days ago

Just set up $10/mo donations. Lemmy, the fediverse, and decentralization is incredibly important now, and we cannot afford to lose it

[–] untakenusername -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

wait why do they actually need money?

Lemmy already works

[–] xman080 11 points 5 days ago

Lemmy is work in progress. New updates bring new features, fix bugs, ....

[–] modernangel 2 points 4 days ago

Always room for refinements

[–] MonsterCity7732 37 points 1 week ago

Yeah, regardless of your opinions of the devs it's probably a good idea to support the project so we can continue to expect updates in the future.

[–] Habahnow 28 points 1 week ago

Damn, 2500 a month for developing software is all y'all want? That's an absolute steal. I appreciate the work y'all do, and glad you posted this. I wasn't aware of what happened to keep this site working.

[–] can 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Good idea. Your link is formatted incorrectly however. Here's the post.

Edit:ironically I messed it up too.

[–] kersploosh 12 points 1 week ago

Fixed! Thank you.

[–] brbposting 16 points 1 week ago

Love you all

Endless knowledge, news, and joy

THANK YOU financial, time, skill contributors to both our community and the development of the software

[–] loaf 15 points 1 week ago

Thank you guys for giving us an awesome Lemmy home!

[–] hector 2 points 1 week ago

Send them a little surprise on their ETH address :)) will have to double down on libera pay or Kofi in fiat