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In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I still don't think he realizes the tariffs he keeps threatening us with hurt his people way more....

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

By "his people," you mean most voters, yeah.

But for high millionaires/billionaires, this is effectively a regressive tax that will benefit them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Putin's Sock Puppet taking orders from Moscow to divide the NATO members. For starters, the Canadians should stop buying US made weapons, because the current US leadership is unhinged and unreliable. If anything, the Blue States should become Canadian Provinces.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't want us. As soon as NYS joins, NYC would dominate the votes, due to wild population differences.

[–] HellsBelle 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't Canada want any state to join our Confederation?

Guaranteed if that were to happen we would be switching to a proportional representation federal vote to fix large population differences.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

So, Canada would "fix" it, by employing a system like the US has, that ensures a tyranny of the minority?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

The Canada, Mexico, California, Washington Oregon States.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Surrender to my imperialism or I'm going to ruin your economy"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

"Surrender to my imperialism or I'm going to ruin ~~your~~ my economy"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did someone brainwash this dude to annex other countries or something? Its like he wants to leave a legacy behind of being the first president in the modern age to expand America.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He’s an agent provocateur hired by the Russkis whether he knows it or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The best puppet. Nobody takes a hand up the butt like me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Well, his idol annexed and invaded other countries, so obviously he should too!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

We must strengthen NATO's defences against the aggressive USA and significantly improve border defences, lest they catch us with our pants down when the time comes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Go fuck yourself" says Canada.

Just like our Danish friends recently told Trump.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

And our Ukraniain friends said to the Russia warship.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"could" raise prices for americans?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Media is complicit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've written to seven senators asking them to make an amendment to the relevant legislation to call it the "Trump inflation explosion act 2025". Not really, but that's what this is.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Being pedantic but generally table in American legislative use means to kill or remove from the floor indefinitely. You are using the British parlimentary use of table which could confuse legislators

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks. I've edited it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Do Americans not have the phrase "everything's on the table"? Or to "shelf something"?

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm going to keep posting this every time I see a reference to US tariffs against Canada.

https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/

The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treaty in which Canada agreed to respect US copyright law in exchange for free trade. No free trade? Canada doesn't need to respect US copyright any longer and can become a flourishing economy of products to compete with US products that are massively overpriced. Think printer ink and other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treat

The treaty that Trump himself negotiated and agreed to.

That's the treaty he is calling a "bad deal" and threatening to violate.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, please, Canadian produced pharmaceuticals + 15% tariff = an order of magnitude cheaper than what we can buy in the States.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Sweet. Host all pirate sites in Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How does this lower the price of my god damn eggs?

Also he does know that Canada would be yet another blue state right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Tariffs raise prices. That's kinda their thing.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

So much political theater and me without my opera glasses

Cutting off trade with Canada would devastate the US economy overnight

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I would welcome fifty new Congressional districts, the overwhelming majority of which would vote Blue within an American political framework.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah you don't know much about Canada, I guess. roughly half would vote democrat, roughly half republican, varying by 5, 10 percent up and down each individual election same as you see every election down south. The Conservatives form government for 8-10 years every 8-10 years federally.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Your guess is incorrect. The Overton window in Canada is quite a bit to the left of where it is in the US.

Bernie would be considered a centrist in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't call Bernie a "canadian centrist" since he aligns with what the NPD want to be, social democrats (left). Otherwise yeah, the american democrats pretty much aligns with Canadian conservatives.

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 26 points 2 days ago

Since we are talking fantasies: Any US state the joins Canada avoids tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why isn't Canada summoning the US ambassador to demand official explanations?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Canadian prime Minister went and spoke directly to Trump.

And Trump laughed him off.

And how do you know the ambassador hasn't already had those meetings?

Canadian officials have been in communication with American governers, senators, congressmen and even mayors to discuss the situation and what sort of response they might expect.

A big part of the problem is that Trump doesn't listen to the advice of anyone once he gets some stupid idea stuck in his head.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

But it's all shit talking and "jokes". Summoning the ambassador, the Canadian government as an institution can officially demand an official response from the US government as an institution. Sovereign state to sovereign state. This is serious business not a social media exchange.

It would basically demand the US government to produce its formal demands of Canada. Anything else should be ignored as farts and white noise.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

They don't need explanation or translation for "he dumb and doesn't understand money outside of wanting more".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The situation is embarrassing enough. No need to bring shame to the ambassador that most likely heard about it from some news outlet too.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago
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