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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That is an appeal to authority, but not a fallacious one. Lawmakers know a lot about how and why people steal. Fallacious appeal to authority is when the authority you're talking about has no knowledge of the topic, for example quoting a psychologist on nutrition advice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lawmakers don't know shit about fuck. Sometimes they have experts available they listen to. Otherwise it's whoever spends the most, who they're buddies with, or what just feels like it will jive with their base at the time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Fallacy fallacy.

Sometimes a person is insufferable and that's the problem.

Like with lawmakers.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's also not whataboutism...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

motte and bailey

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

I've actually had this dispute on Lemmy.

Dude kept insisting I tell him my income but refused to say how or why it would be relevant.

Ed: no joke, it was flyingsquid too which is a bit more funny tbh.

It's a very sensible conclusion when I've asked you how rich you are multiple times and you refuse to answer. Even after I told you my economic situation.

You're rich and you are embarrassed about it because it makes you look just as callous and dismissive of the poor as Elon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Your first mistake was choosing to debate one of the most argumentative people on Lemmy. Can only get weird from there

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

To be fair, you did call them a petty tyrant for making a joke about trolling the sovcit posts as an IRS agent.

Also made me curious if you do enjoy some light tax evasion or are into the whole "I don't pay taxes because I am the only citizen in my own nation inside your nation" thing

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

More than a dollar less than several billion.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lets start a club!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I bet it’s even more than a thousand dollars a year!

If it isn’t, I’m so sorry buddy, and I hope your situation improves somehow.

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[–] BudgetBandit 13 points 3 weeks ago

That’s something only a Geringverdiener™ would say!

/s

[–] explodicle 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's such a low bar for "rich". The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The best answer to that question avoids all fallacies.

"No"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think gigachad could argue that it's Invincible Ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

That sounds like admitting defeat "you don't care about any arguments I could make"

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[–] starman2112 29 points 3 weeks ago

Why did you post a screenshot of every argument I've ever been on on this platform?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"No."

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Why do people deflect instead of just saying no?

[–] weker01 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was struggling to understand that for a long time too. It seems like it's a mix of being told that just saying no is not polite and an aversion to conflict. Especially when stating needs.

Some parents actively discourage their children to state their needs clearly and concisely from a very very young age.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Companies that give personality tests in the hiring process are largely looking at your "agreeableness" score. We're constantly taught (from an early age, as you mention) that the default answer should be "Yes." If you're creative, you might push it to "Yes, and..." But a plain "no" from anyone who isn't explicitly labeled as a "leader" is a non-starter in systems obsessed with hierarchy.

There are really only three options. Try to climb an existing hierarchy. Make your own hierarchy and place yourself atop it. Or operate within and between hierarchies without unnecessarily validating their existence. That last one's increasingly difficult by design. And honestly, the second one usually requires exploiting others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, that's fine in IRL. It fails on any kind of discussion board though, at least for anything not as comically egregious as "give me your banking details."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Slippery slope, you have to give the ATM your bank details

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Fallacy fallacy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I will gladly send you my banking details

Sarcasm is last refuge of the wittless .

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's almost what those words mean

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, my account number is 1 2 3 4 5

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's your lemmy password?

[–] Birch 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Why did you just post a bunch of asterisks?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

actually funny meme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's 942822688476

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

oh no. I've been on the left-hand side of this before. I knew what I was doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, they’re a credit union and have branches in quite a few places. Not too certain about their corporate structure, but I’m reasonably sure it’s within nominal terms for a CU. They have what I would consider to be competitive rates for lending, credit, and savings, generally better than what you’d find at a commercial bank. They also have money market and investment options, too. Their customer service is par excellence, and I’m quite satisfied with them.

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