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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

That would imply that 50 percent of the snapped people's biomes remained behind. All of the produce in the grocery stores would be covered in an airborne mist of E. coli, and snapped surgeons that were mid-operation would give their patients staph infections, assuming the suriviving surgery team was able to stablize and close them up before they died anyway. Neat.

Also when those snapped people returned with the half of their biomes that also got snapped, you would get a sequel to the diarrhea. Diarrhea 2: Electric Boogapoo.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Following that logic conjoined twins would either both be snapped or neither would.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think the Gauntlet counted any beings that either depended on another to live or supported another to live as all one unit for simplicity's sake.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I would love a comic series where each Infinity Stone has a representative entity of some kind and we get to see the "thought process" each goes through in fulfilling the request of its wielder. I'm envisioning a format like the Pixar movie "Inside Out" except each stone's entity is very judgy on how the wielder is using it.

"Ugh, Goddamit Dr Strange, how many more times do you want to do this Dormamu thing. Its getting really repetitive." - Time stone

Or when multiple stones have to work together, they have to hash out what each is going to do to fulfill the desired wish. The conversation between all the stones during "the snap" being the longest and most complicated conversation with questions coming up like "okay Mr Soul Stone smart guy, what about pregnant women?! Is that one soul or two, huh?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

imagine the stone suddenly surgically removing your conjoined twin but leaving you with a typical body afterwards. then 5 years later your twin - now noticably younger and alien to you - is reattached

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

The scientific definition of life changes constantly, but viruses more often than not fall under "not alive."

Throughout, viruses have rarely been considered alive. More than 120 definitions of life exist today, and most require metabolism, a set of chemical reactions that produce energy. Viruses do not metabolize. They also don’t fit some other common criteria. They do not have cells. They cannot reproduce independently. Viruses are inert packages of DNA or RNA that cannot replicate without a host cell.

Source

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Killing 50% of your gut bacteria is a big nothing.

These things reproduce on the timescale of hours.

I kill 90% of my sourdough starter every time I feed it, and it bounces back the same day.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have been on antibiotics that wiped out most of my gut bacteria. It was easy to upset my stomach for a few months, then I was fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I had the same experience with norovirus this spring.

Probiotics did the trick, but it was t so much fun.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

50% of all ≠ 50% per person

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Right? Taking even the people who disappeared into account, and their gut biomes, would you not consider them all as part of all life?

If so, there may be some survivors with all of their guy biomes perfectly intact, and others who get unfortunately zilched.

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[–] loaExMachina 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

If the 50% are homogeneously spread -and it's implied that it is-, then one may assume 50% per person also applies. Like how he didn't leave 50% of planets alone and purge the rest.

[–] Enkers 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would think it's basically a coin flip for each living thing. It's possible, for example, that all humans survive, however the probability is so astronomically small, it's functionally impossible.

Same with gut biome. Even with several billion attempts, the probability that even 60% of any individual's trillion gut microbes get snapped would be essentially functionally impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or the 50% of all people that got snapped took 50% of the gut bacteria with them, leaving the rest with no loss to their gut biomes. (taps forehead)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

or the survivors lost all but bacteria, and the remainders were left over in places of the snapped people

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Ohh so that's what the dust is. The leftover gut bacteria.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

E. Coli reproduces so fast that a population can double in size in half an hour, and human feces is 50% bacteria by weight.

If your gut microbiome got snapped it'd be back so fast you wouldn't even notice. Bacteria are kinda scary.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, worst case scenario stock prices for probiotic yoghurt would increase.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait, do you have a source for the 50% number?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Wouldn't 50% of them die at the same time as the creatures that they live inside? Like unexisting 50% of humans would in fact unexist 50% of the bacteria in the humans who went poof.

How does this argument make sense?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

Thanos' plan was unmitigated garbage anyway.

Humanity reached 4B in 1975 and hit 8B in 2022. On that basis, if half of humanity died when Thanos snapped his fingers 50 years later we'd be back to 8B people again.

——— Edited to billions not millions because I wrote it while under the influence of stupidity.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

She makes a compelling argument.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Look, we're in the realm where the guy decided to remove 50% of all life... as a resource conservation attempt.

Lovely movies, but the "guy's a literal death cultist" required way less suspension of disbelief. Jilted incel Thanos pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza or whoever would have been way more timely, too.

But if we're doing it this way... 50% of the plants, algae and plankton would have died too. XKCD MUST have figured out what that'd do to the atmosphere by now, right?

[–] IrateAnteater 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza

Can't have your bad guy be that relatable. Everyone would just be cheering against the avengers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Isn't "an annoyed Aubrey Plaza" redundant?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Come to think about it, whenever a macroscopic organism - ie animals - died it would leave behind about half the microbes living on and in them. When those poor fools got dusted it should have left a puddle of horrible slime on the ground.

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[–] zalgotext 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Thanos' snap wouldn't kill 50% of each survivors' gut microbiome, it would kill 50% of all the lil buggies that compromise all gut microbiomes, and if the snap effects individuals randomly, you'd see a normal distribution (I think, I haven't taken stats in a decade). So some survivors would retain 100% of their microbiome, some would lose it all, with a bell curve in between, probably with the peak around 50%.

[–] explodicle 21 points 2 months ago

That bell curve would be extremely narrow. You have so many lil buggies that basically every human survivor would lose ~50% buggies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the intention was sentient life as having Thanos stop the film to explain the terms and conditions of his snap would've impacted the pacing of the film.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Does that mean for the people that got snapped, some will leave some of their sperm behind?

And pregnant woman might leave their fetus behind.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

See... see this is the story content that belongs in the extended cut.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Do the HeLa cells all die together, or do only half of them die?

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