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[–] nuke 94 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Russian warship: "Snake Island, I, Russian warship, repeat the offer: put down your arms and surrender, or you will be bombed. Have you understood me? Do you copy?"

Ukrainian 1 to Ukrainian 2: "That's it, then. Or, do we need to fuck them back off?"

Ukrainian 2 to Ukrainian 1: "Might as well."

Ukrainian 1: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Best part, that Russian warship was the Moskva. Pictured top-left, with the red X through it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

sunk by indigenously built ukranian neptune surface to surface missile no less. Very impressive!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

On the he ships Wikipedia page (it was called the moslva):

Ukraine has officially declared the wreck of the ship to be an underwater cultural heritage site

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

One of my favorite memes on the subject came from Sputnik_not "update: the fire is out" [picture of the ship underwater]

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Only the Russians could lose their entire navy in a land war.

Twice

[–] ItsGhost 15 points 9 months ago

I was wondering if this was similar to the Baltic Fleet and going down the comments looking for a reference. Lemmy did not disappoint

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Youtuber Perun joked this week that the Houthis had done more to disrupt international shipping than the Russians had done in the Black Sea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Perun has some serious deadpan humor.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These things strike me as very... expensive.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Months for a single boat if your logistics are top tier. Years otherwise.

For the tonnage crossed of this list, easily close to a decade to replace.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

easily close to a decade to replace.

For a nation with the money and manpower to actually build them. Not ones that can only afford to upcycle 5 fossils each decade with a new gun/missile silo and (maybe) coat of paint.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Rust can be protective.There's brown rust, orange rust, fast rust, slow rust. Wire wheels are expensive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One rust two rust red rust blue rust

[–] nuke 7 points 9 months ago

Anyway, like I was sayin', rust is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, sauté it. Dey's uh, rust-kabobs, rust creole, rust gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple rust, lemon rust, coconut rust, pepper rust, rust soup, rust stew, rust salad, rust and potatoes, rust burger, rust sandwich. That- that's about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Fair point.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m pretty sure haven’t built a surface combatant larger than a frigate since the fall of the USSR.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They might have had a second aircraft carrier by now if they'd finished the one left in Ukraine at the collapse in 91. But for better or worse they sold the hulk (and the plans) to China in '99. It's possible the Kuznetsov is in such a state because the sold the only copy of the plans

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Irony a lot of these were built in Soviet Ukraine, so nice to see them laid to rest in their home 🥰

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Boats are expensive. I know because I was a sailor, and then worked in ship building/repair.

[–] corq 30 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

at what point can we call this the most embarrassing war for the Russian navy since the Russo-Japanese war?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

You can start anytime.

[–] Tar_alcaran 9 points 9 months ago

It already is. But that a big hurdle to cross

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Sink em all

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

With no fleet left they don't need the black sea ports anymore and can get the fuck out of Crimea, right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What's the story behind the one circled ship? Captured?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think it's this one. Attacked twice, probably partially sunk in port.

The insert b&w photo is of another ship sunk a couple of days ago by drone boats, with great footage (https://sopuli.xyz/post/8635610). It's the small one in the row above the circled ship.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I like to imagine at least one of these remaining ships probably doesn't even exist and is just a big embezzlement. It would be par for the course with Russia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

which one just happened a day or so ago? the letters are tiny, so relying on someone who knows their ships!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Well, they said it was a corvette, so most likely the one ~7 down and 3 in. It seems like it's the right profile

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

The small "Ivanovets" in the center, the row above the circled one, I believe: https://sopuli.xyz/post/8635610.

[–] corq 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think I'mma print this one out for my bulletin board so I can keep score at home...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Legit fun idea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

isunkyourbattleship.gif

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Ukraine is the last opponent I would want to have in a game of Battleships

[–] clay_pidgin 4 points 9 months ago

What is that? Looks like the biggest remaining ship.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Still can't believe they sunk a fucking DDG with an MLRS lmfao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I wonder when ol' Kuznetsov will meet its fate? Thing can hardly sail as is. Even if Ukraine doesn't take it out, the ship'll probably do the job itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Everybody edging, waiting for the kep

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So wait, is that the entire Russian fleet?

I would have thought they had more.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their ship-to-submarine conversion program is so far a great success.

[–] astarob 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lately they have decided to allocate a larger share of their fleet to protect the sea bed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

By the size of the chart I think it's the black sea fleet and they can't bring any warships through the Bosporus during war time.