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Craig Sumner Elliott, 68, allegedly shot Antonio Garcia Avalos, 40, in incident in Orange county

A California jogger was charged this week in the killing of a homeless man who was blocking the sidewalk.

Craig Sumner Elliott, 68, was jogging with his two dogs and pushing a cart on 28 September when he came across Antonio Garcia Avalos, 40, who was sleeping in the middle of the sidewalk, prosecutors in Orange county, California, said.

Elliott allegedly tried to wake Avalos by nudging him with the pushcart, whereupon Avalos started yelling at Elliott to leave him alone.

Elliott, who allegedly filmed their encounter, then brought a handgun out of his cart, prosecutors charged, adding that when Avalos stood and threw a shoe at Elliott, he ducked and responded by shooting Avalos three times.

Avalos subsequently died from his injuries. Elliott, who does have an active concealed carry permit issued by the local sheriff’s office, was arrested on 17 November in the incident.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

alright time to go for a jog! got my running shoes, sunglasses, headphones, whoops, can't forget the gun!

[–] ZzyzxRoad 20 points 1 year ago

Or the cart, apparently. Who jogs with two dogs and a cart?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen countless americans claiming that it's perfectly justified to drive over people if they get in the way of your car, so this is pretty on-brand.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man is almost 70 and still jogging and shooting homeless people while filming it! Must have been a wild life.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (11 children)

He had two dogs and was pushing a cart that carried his gun...

Whatever he was doing, it wasn't jogging.

And him taking his phone out to record himself kicking the other man and yelling at him first, was likely only because he was hoping to antagonize a homeless person so he could "defend himself".

He's got to be one of those idiots who believe the "stand your ground" bullshit.

You can't start kicking a sleeping man and then claim you're a victim, but he's gonna try

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That was my first thought, reading the article. There's no way he was just jogging. What kind of jogger takes a cart with them? I've never seen something like that, and I see a lot of joggers in my area.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

When the story first broke, most articles called him a dog walker.

Anything to not make it obvious it's another rage addicted boomer I guess

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People with children in strollers. Other than that, I've never seen it either.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. This is one of the big problems with so many people carrying guns. There are many shitty people looking for a reason to use them.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

What a fucking coward, you threw a shoe at me? Time to die!

dehumanization is absolutely disgusting, and it's a core part of this capitalist hellscape

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

This wouldn't have happened if only the homeless man had a gun! We need to educate the homeless to carry weapons! More guns is the answer!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Before anyone says he deserved it for throwing a shoe...

Someone did that to George W. Bush, WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, and he was simply arrested.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I believe they threw both shoes even!

[–] MartinXYZ 6 points 1 year ago

And this happened in Iraq.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That shoe was a weapon of mass destruction

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well trash has been removed from the sidewalk.

Unfortunate that an innocent homeless man had to die though.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This could have been avoided if there was a Good Jogger With A Gun

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I'm starting a charity... "Arm the Homeless". We can set up arming stations for the unhoused, providing assault rifles and even free ammo for those who run low.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supposed "good guy with a gun" led to a death that wouldn't have happened if there were stricter gun control.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Arm the homeless!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Clearly he needed to use deadly force to protect himself from that (checks post again) rogue shoe...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe it was an assault style shoe

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard it was a semi-automatic shoe with bump stock.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He must have customized it. That model usually comes with a birken stock.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He should have done like W and dodged the shoe. Shit George dodged twice and didn’t shoot anyone. He left the shootings to Dick Cheney.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Wants a guy laying on the sidewalk to move. Naturally, he kills him so he can't move out of the way. Logical.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly how do you 'nudge' someone with a cart? Is talking to them loudly or reaching down and touching a shoulder really that impossible? (god forbid you choose to go around them, the inconvenience!)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Apparently, it was the old man who threw the shoe, not the homeless man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1mzHyXstI

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad he is charged. It is what he deserves.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Only took 50 days to arrest him. Expedited.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This "well-regulated militia" was legally carrying a firearm. Biden's deep state is charging him anyway!

--Conservatives, probably

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