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[-] [email protected] 187 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A screenshot from discord, in which nickjcal24 writes: @everyone since messages pushed it way up.  I was fired from The Escapist along with many others today, and in response the entire video team, including Yahtzee, has resigned from The Escapist.  Our plan is to go independent, but we will share more plans on that later this week.

It‘s probably important to mention that the entire video team is gone. Some of them were fired, so the rest walked. They‘re planning to go independent soon.

Edit: Their new channel will be SecondWindGroup. They'll do a livestream on November 8th at 11 AM CT, explaining their plans for the future. (Source)

[-] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago

Damn.

Props to everyone who quit in solidarity.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

Imagine if Dropout picked them up

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[-] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago

Fucking hell, he's been with them for close to 20 years, basically half of his working life. He's been there through a lot of shit too, and basically kept The Escapist going through setbacks, cuts, and more.

I would have assumed he'd be largely untouchable there, so to make a decision that led him to resign immediately is absolutely wild.

To be fair, I quite liked Extra Punctuation, and I've always thought he would now be recognisable enough to either go alone, or actually be in front of a screen without animation. This could work out really well for him.

[-] eestileib 12 points 8 months ago

I don't like ZP but EP is quite good imo.

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[-] [email protected] 85 points 8 months ago

Holy shit so no more Zero Punctuation? He was like half of that channel. Wow this came from nowhere.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

Theyre practically nothing without him.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

No one would have heard of them if it weren't for ZP

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

By the sounds of it their entire video team left. So not half of the channel gone, but all of it...

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[-] taladar 21 points 8 months ago

In my mind Escapist as a brand itself is basically only ZP, do they even do anything else?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They used to, before Extra Credits, Critical Role, and MovieBob went independent.

[-] captain_aggravated 18 points 8 months ago

And The Jimquisition if you reach back far enough.

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[-] Tar_alcaran 15 points 8 months ago

Zero punctuation and 3-minute reviews are the only reason to be there. Guess i'm out now.

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago

Well, props to Yahtz for not being a scab and quitting when Nick got fired, good solidarity there

It would be amazing if his team could somehow join the Outside Xbox, then I could get all of my British accented videogame snark in one place

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago

I don't even know what they do except post Yahtzee videos

[-] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago

So the escapist is closing down soon? Alright then.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago

I know he said he'll show up in another place (and will keep doing largely the same stuff there, presumably) but this is such an impactful end of an era for me. I've been watching ZP my whole adult life, pretty much. I can't believe his next video won't have the iconic music or animated imps. I don't know why this affects me so much but ZP has been such a constant I suppose, that it feels empty with it gone.

Still, huge props to the team for resigning in solidarity, absolutely love seeing that and I'll definitely follow whatever site they end up on next.

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

I stopped watching a long time ago but from what I can tell dude legitimately cares about getting games journalism right, hope it goes well for him

[-] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

He’s definitely one of those that speaks his mind with little filtering. You get his honest opinion, which is nice in a world of bought reviews. Sure his opinion might not match yours, but that’s not the point is it?

He’s also a pretty good author. I recommend all of his books.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

This is definitely the end of an era.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

For real. I've been listening to these forever.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Props for the reminder. Thank you.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago

This reminds me of when Jared left Wisecrack, or when literally everyone left Cracked. I felt it coming too, same pattern as many before: the ZP videos started pushing for premium subs with more ads and censoring Yahtzee, and there were more shows with Yatz and a cohost. They always start by pushing the video stars to do stuff with new (cheaper, unknown, less interesting) people because The Company thinks all people are replaceable gears.

Good for the entire video team just quiting, the writing has clearly been on the wall for a while. Maybe he can do work with Stephanie Sterling again? I used to love their team ups!

[-] captain_aggravated 32 points 8 months ago

Well shit that's the Escapist dead. I was kinda wondering.

[-] merc 30 points 8 months ago

Most people don't remember that The Escapist was originally a PDF games magazine. It was excellent back then. Great articles, and amazing graphic design.

Soon after it became a website, the only thing I went there for was Yahtzee Croshaw, and honestly I haven't listened to Zero Punctuation for maybe 10 years.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

No more Escapist basically? Oh well.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

I'm out of the loop. Any reason given for leaving? I feel like I've watched ZP on and off since we got a family computer.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago

From what's been posted on the discord and a couple of articles it looks like the escapist was bought out, and new management wanted a ton of video content (perhaps to align with the youtube algorithm of prioritizing channels that post multiple videos per day). New management then fired Nick, and the video staff in solidarity (and seeing the writing on the wall of the new direction of promoting low effort, frequent content over less frequent quality content) walked out with him.

[-] captain_aggravated 16 points 8 months ago

I find this kind of funny-sad: The Escapist has often gone through these waves of being The Yahtzee Croshaw Channel to "We're spinning up two other channels just so we can spread out all the stuff we're making." Remember that phase when every ZP started with a bumper about which shows are on which channel? Yeah they stopped uploading things to Escapist Movies and Escapist Live 2 years ago.

I was actually digging some of the newer stuff they were making, particularly The Stuff Of Legends and Cold Take, and doing Extra Punctuation in video form didn't hurt either. Just as I was finally like "Hey Escapist is publishing some shows in addition to ZP that I'm kinda into" it all falls apart.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Sounds like they definitely fucked up. So they just bought the channel for no reason. There will be no content now.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Well that's an unsub. Literally the only thing from them I ever watched

In any case, I look forward to whatever he's got cooked up. Hope he keeps doing stuff like extra punctuation as well

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[-] mindbleach 26 points 8 months ago

Congratulations to some wealthy idiots on their recent purchase of an empty box.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

I've watched every single episode of zero Punctuation. Holy fuck. This is huge.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

Man has consistently been putting out five minutes of good to pretty good content once a week for over fifteen years, it was an incredible run tbh

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

All while writing books and even narrating the audiobooks. Man didn't have time for punctuation or sleep.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Right? Essentially half my life. Just dropped out of college when he started up.

He's practically back in the Maddox.xmission.com, PurePwnage, and Newgrounds days.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

I wonder if they're gonna try getting someone else to take up ZP

[-] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

Good fucking luck to the next guy. Lol

Shits going down like the Hindenburg.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

That would be impossible, since Yahtzee basically is Zero Punctuation, anyone else wouldn't feel right.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wow. That’s a heavy blow.

Lords of the fallen, fell this mighty Lord. 🥀

Been watching him for what feels like forever.

Definitely wish him and the team the best of luck moving forward and will keep an eye out for the next venture.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Someone please, please back up the old Zero Punctuation videos now, before something happens.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I stopped following The Escapist a couple months back when it started reminding me more and more of corporate media. ZP was fun because you could get Yat's unfiltered opinion, rather than the almost undiscernable "good game, 7/10" opinion other game reviewers give. The Escapist shot themselves on the foot on this one, imo.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

They started the Second Wind Group channel. So videos should be posted there shortly https://www.youtube.com/@SecondWindGroup

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