Reminder to folks that "less lethal" still means "lethal" even if the cops pretend it doesn't.
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In the video from last weekend of the Australian reporter being shot in the back, you can clearly see the police officer behind her raise and aim straight at her. Clearly there's no repercussions for misusing these weapons.
Different victim but here's what a shot to the back can do:
I think he was hit with some kind of grenade the police fired. There seems to be a huge hole in the center. How is he not paralyzed??
Clearly there’s no repercussions for misusing these weapons.
Maybe in countries where police accountability isn't a punchline.
Maybe in countries where police accountability isn’t a punchline.
Name one.
It is this kind of thing that made me decide to ignore my city's municipal codes regarding protest gear. It outlaws the wearing of bulletproof vests, helmets, protective visors, hearing protection, gas masks, and so on. To say the least, I cannot respect a law that is designed to permit bullies to injure or kill people who did nothing wrong.
Gods forbid that people should protect their faces from damage.
If you don’t bring any protective gear, you better run when things get ugly. If you plan to stay when things get ugly, you better bring the appropriate gear with you.
Hundreds have been permanently blinded.
Just think about how that could even happen. You put any of us in their shoes, we would obviously aim low, to prevent permanent damage.
It's like police are overgrown toddlers, mad that they're forced to use less lethal rounds... So they take it out on civilians and aim for the face. Can you imagine being as hate-filled as these fucking orcs that you would want to blind the people you "serve" for the rest of their lives (if you don't kill them)!? Absolute monsters...
'Qualified immunity' is unique to the USA. Never should have been made law and it should surprise no-one that it came about during push-back to the civil rights movement. It enables all of this bullshit by making police behaviour untouchable.
You expect me to believe that cops are supposed to 360 no scope trick shots? I don't think they took, much less passed, geometry.
You're supposed to be shooting at a dangerous crowd, not an individual. You don't need to accurately get the right angle you just need to generally aim in the right direction, but at the ground, and I'll bounce and hit someone. The fact they're choosing not to do this either indicates poor training or malice.
Both. Malice inspired poor training.
You shouldn’t have to wear safety rated glasses to protest, but I wouldn’t go to one without them at this point. If you normally wear glasses and they’re not rated an impact can shatter them and cause even more damage than not wearing them at all would have.
If you have glasses buy safety glasses that go over top of them. Doesn’t matter if your glasses are rated for it, use the safety glasses. Glasses are expensive and safety glasses can be bought for fairly cheap.
This! Look for "Z87" somewhere on the frame of the glasses to know if they're impact rated.
The protester was among tens of thousands of people who took to the streets for the demonstrations across Southern California and the rest of the country.
Tens of thousands? There were over FIVE MILLION protesters.
E OVER THIRTEEN MILLION protesters - thank you, Lucidlethargy
Over 12 million
Yeah the 5 Million seemed like the total number from just counting the big cities. If you actually include the thousands of small protest events all over the US, 12 Million makes a lot more sense
Estimates say there may be have been dozens or more protestors.
I hope they recover their vision. As someone who lost sight in one eye I can attest that going from binocular to monocular vision is life altering AND not considered a disability under the ~~law~~ Social Security requirements but typically is covered by ADA.
Edit: clarification.
How is losing 50% of your eyesight not a disability?
Because you still have eyesight in the other eye, so in social security's mind there's jobs in the Dictionary of Occupational Titles (the DOT) you could still perform, and if there's three jobs you could perform despite your impairment you aren't disabled. Also, if you're under 50 you almost certainly aren't disabled for some reason. It's maddening.
A lot of states don't even care if you've only got so-so vision in one eye and are completely blind in the other. No stereopsis, no problem! Here's a driver's license. Good luck.
America
I'll adjust my comment because I realize it might be confusing. It's protected by ADA but it doesn't meet the requirements for a disability claim under Social Security:
They trying to make those rubber bullets letal.
Less lethal is just maiming? That doesn’t seem much fucking better.
You are supposed to aim centre mass with less lethal. Hitting the eye means you are incompetent (unlikely), or malicious (definitely).
I was at a protest in DTLA where they were firing them. Some cops were flinching when the rounds were fired. So I'm going with both incompetent and malicious.
You also aren't supposed to aim directly at people but bounce them off the ground, IIRC
Rubber bullets are supposed to be fired at the ground and bounce up into targets...
I wonder if this was the guy that was injured during Hasan's stream on Saturday? There was a guy injured in the eye and the cops were definitely shooting head level.
Classic passive voice headline.
This was so common during protests in Spain they made a movie about it: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4555674/
Waiting for Pussolini to send the National Guard to city hall, to depose the mayor and council.
States need to pass ballot initiatives that make it completely legal to shoot any police officer with a rubber bullet whenever you feel like it. It should also be legal to pump tear gas into a police station whenever you want. Police are using these things against entirely peaceful protests. The only violent people are the police. Yet they're allowed to just use these weapons against people with no consequence whatsoever. I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If these weapons are that harmless that cops can just use them whenever, then we should be able to use them against cops whenever we feel like it as well. It should be entirely legal to shoot cops with rubber bullets. They should have to go everywhere in full body armor and face coverings. See a cop on the street? Shoot them with a rubber bullet. Officer pulls you over? Shoot them with a rubber bullet. Cop standing in line at a donut shop? Feel free to come up behind them and shoot them point blank in the back of the head with a rubber bullet.
If cops can use these weapon with such casual indifference, then they must be completely harmless. As such, there is no harm in allowing citizens to use rubber bullets and tear gas against officers at any time they choose. Anything that cops can do to random citizens random citizens should also be able to do to cops.
chemistry stores in college sell those hard plastic glasses or goggles.
You'll need z87+ (ANSI Z87.1) impact resistant safety glasses or goggles. If the chemistry store does not have these you can find them at any big box hardware store
Eyewitness News Reporter Sid Garcia spoke to the protester who was shot from his hospital bed at the L.A. General Medical Center.
I was thinking at first like, how lucky to be in a hospital bed already when being shot. 🧐