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[–] [email protected] 225 points 1 week ago (42 children)

Trump has become schizophrenic again.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump has a lot that seems might be wrong with him, but schizophrenia never really seemed to be on the list. Narcissism, dementia, psycho-/socio-pathy, compulsive lying, and possibly more, but I've never gotten the feeling he displayed the hyperpatternicity I associate with schizophrenia.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly he sounds like just about every old man I've ever met, rambling on about whatever nonsense is running through his head at any given moment.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Even with tariffs it's still not financially viable to Apple to bring manufacturing to the U.S. and if they still decided to it would take 10to 15 years to get going. It ain't gonna happen. Sad oompa-loompa.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 week ago (2 children)

he's extorting everyone it has nothing to do with tariffs

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s basically “lose a huge amount of money or do me favours that cost you 1/100 as much”. Surprise, surprise, they do the favours.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

How many clearance lot jets can Apple provide? Maybe Apple TV wants to host a truth social media network?

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It sounds like he thinks the word "tariff" just means "payment". Then he follows that with "[whoever he thinks should make the payment]". Tariff by Apple, Tariff by China, etc. Honestly. I don't know how else you can make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago

he makes it sound like the manufacturers pay the tarriff so his moron supporters think it's a good idea.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 week ago (20 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.

We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.

In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.

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[–] TorJansen 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It's coming true.

And again "tariff must be paid by Apple" really shows that he still has no idea how they work.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Made in India + 25% tariff is still cheaper than made in Murica.

That BS is just for media.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (9 children)

What the hell is with the "Thank you for your attention to this matter?"

You're shitposting to a global media audience, not politely asking Facilities to restock the vending machine with Snickers bars.

Are you just in full Business Guy Autocomplete mode? A Bigly Language Model?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

That bothers me too. It's the business equivalent of " do what I say. I don't want to have to help. Go fuck yourself"

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who is Tim Cook of Apple? Why does it sound like Trump is talking about Tim Apple?

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[–] bitwolf 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn't know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.

RIP

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.

Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.

That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This isn't about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks God he clarified he's talking about Tim Cook of Apple, for a moment I thought he was speaking about my neighbor from downstairs.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Tim Apple the cook

[–] Ironfist 34 points 1 week ago

This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.

[–] iAmTheTot 34 points 1 week ago

But, but, but... I thought the foreign governments paid the tariffs? /s just in case

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

The Art of Extortion.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

iPhones not iPhone's... Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All those hours spent on that tiny screw game is finally going to pay off!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tiny screw game

how do you know what I call sex?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good fuck apple they probably donated to trump

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Such smol govment

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

An extra 25% must be paid by consumers. Like every other tariff. New taxes be like that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Will the US factories have suicide nets too, or is that reserved for Taiwan?

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