Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.
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that’s fine. iphones are so cheap, people can handle even 50% tariffs. apple is worth every penny /s.
going to buy a cmf phone 2 now…
It's coming true.
And again "tariff must be paid by Apple" really shows that he still has no idea how they work.
Made in India + 25% tariff is still cheaper than made in Murica.
That BS is just for media.
Tbf the labor will be done by the minorities and undesirables they will keep throwing in prison without due process
you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.
NEVER.
a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?
let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.
the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?
so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.
and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.
all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.
We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.
We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.
It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.
In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.
Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.
Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.
I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.
This isn't about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.
The Art of Extortion.
I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn't know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.
RIP
Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.
He will kill and reinstate it to sell it as his own doing.
Obviously guided by his counselers and consultants.
He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.
Step 1. Add Tarrifs.
Step 2. Wait till the share price falls.
Step 3. Buy in low.
Step 4. Lift the tariffs again.
Step 5. Wait till the share price rises.
Step 6. Profit.
Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."
Who is Tim Cook of Apple? Why does it sound like Trump is talking about Tim Apple?
This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.
I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.
Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.
That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.
iPhones not iPhone's... Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?
What about the components? Should they also be produced in the US?
Let’s be clear, producing the iPhone in the US would be more than a 25% cost increase.
Selling iPhones made outside US: bad
Selling MAGA hats and swag made in China: art of the deal
An extra 25% must be paid by consumers. Like every other tariff. New taxes be like that.
Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?
They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we'll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes
Don't buy Apple. Problem solved. I will not accept arguments about 'but the eco-system blah-blah'
Sticks Fingers in ears lalalalalala
We can always respond with our money and not buy an iPhone
Such smol govment
You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.
This past Monday, John Stewart of The Daily Show interviewed Patrick Mcgee who discussed the jaw-dropping amounts of money Apple spent building out Chinese electronics supply chains which had deep implications. -It made for an interesting case if true.
It is paid by consumers, not Apple. Other phone companies will raise prices as well to increase their profits, since iPhone prices will set a new high price. When Apple prices goes up 25% other phone companies can increase their prices by 15% and still be competitive to apple.
Actually to make same profit due to lower phone sales Apple may have to raise price even higher than 25% or find other ways to get consumers to pay more. Die hard fans of Apple will buy, whatever the price.
It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.
Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?
Will the US factories have suicide nets too, or is that reserved for Taiwan?