Jesus Christ... NO.
Same as the last two times, it's a wasted effort without the votes in the Senate. If you can't remove him, don't bother. Focus on winning back the House and Senate in 2026.
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One of the things I hate about yes minister is how it still applies 40 years later. Like f%@$!
Ya I always laugh when people talk about how accurately the Simpsons predicts things. It's like, no, politics is just that fucking cyclical and the writers were smart.
I say were because it's not what it used to be.
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That's the idea. Impeach him after 26. It's in the article
Impeachment is the check against his power. It would be better to convict, but the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable. Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump's crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Impeachment is how you win those elections. Rolling over and showing your belly is why Democrats keep losing before the fight begins.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time. They would be better served (1) governing super well in places they are in charge (to demonstrate they are the better option - something that is inconsistent today); (2) figuring out why people are voting for Trump; (3) developing strong messaging and strategy to win races top to bottom of the ballot. I've been unimpressed with their ability to both run and govern recently (with some exceptions here and there). Maybe it is catching up with them.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time.
Any time he's focusing on that is time he's not actively fucking shit up. Being obstructionist is what's gotten the Republicans to the place they are now.
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Ah, but this is the least effective way for Democrats to show their donors that they're still "fighting" for them. The only thing that matters now is manufacturing some talking point to get more donations in 2026.
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Unfortunately this is just a sign of how bad the US has gotten.
There have been impeachment attempts on Clinton, W Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Impeachment was supposed to be used to stop a president acting illegally but its just become another political weapon in the US capitol.
The US system is so unbelievably broken. It entirely depends on bipartisan support to get things done but things are now too polarised to function and the electoral system prevents 3rd parties access at any level.
The two parties have destroyed democracy. It could be fixed but it would need to start at the state levels with 3rd parties coming in and rebuilding the electoral system. But the 2 parties have even gerrymandered the constituencies so only the two parties can win.
Even other countries with first past the post systems have other viable political parties - look at the UK, Australia and Canada. Fptp is flawed and breed an replacing but the US version is next level for locking in the status quo.
It's not "the two parties". The Republicans impeachment efforts have universally been partisan witch hunts - even the successful one against Clinton. (And I am no fan of Clinton. He should have been ostracized by the Democrats a long time ago). W Bush and Trump both committed crimes worthy of removal from office. It's not the same at all.
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Just an FYI, Australia doesn't have first past the post, rather we have preferential and compulsory voting. We're quite proud of it. An independent organisation creates voting districts which means gerrymandering is minimised
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No GOP backing, so this is meaningless theater.
Exactly. He's been impeached twice and nothing happened. He should have been barred from office years ago. The entire process is nothing but political theatre for donors.
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Impeachment stops corrupt individuals, not an entire party of fascists
Lol as proved last time, impeachment means absolutely nothing. It didn't stop the last corrupt individual, in fact he was just reelected and is as corrupt, if not more, than before.
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Gotta pretend they are doing something
Who exactly? Who is pretending they are doing something?? Is it democrats you’re accusing of pretending to do something?
How about maybe you try reading the article next time instead of chiming in with edgy nonsense.
It is a non partisan group called Free Speech for People. You’d have known that had you read the 1st paragraph of the article.
Oh. And while we’re on the subject of pretending… even if you were right and it is the democrats pretending- at least they pretended to do something. Because so many of you flat out admittedly did nothing.
And look what that got us.
Impeachment is pointless when the republican traitor filth control more than 1/3 of the senate. Suggest other solutions to dealing with trump.
Imagine trying to win over the electorate instead. That'd be crazy.
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Nothing news from an empty source.
Impeachment has been of no consequence for more than half a century. Yet another demonstration that the US constitution is fucking idiotic.
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What the fuck is impeachment anymore?
Growing up and learning Nixon resigned because he was impeached and made him look terrible I thought it was career ending. Like they'll drag you out of the white house career ending.
Now it just feels like telling a toddler "NO!" but with no consequence when they keep going anyway.
"Surely, this time, impeachment will have consequences!"
Even if it passes, he will never be removed from office. There is no low that Trump can sink to where Republicans will not fall in lockstep with him. It's pointless.
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FFS no. All it did the last two times was help him, because impeachment is basically impossible and he's going to "win".
Third time is the charm
I'm starting to think these Democrats aren't taking this seriously
This was a look I was hoping only Republicans would champion. Ceremonial impeachments etc. One little trick i hope they master is shutting down the government just because they felt like it.
Ah yes i remember these exact news at this time during his first term
Good. They should get rid of him by any means necessary.
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