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Jesus Christ... NO.
Same as the last two times, it's a wasted effort without the votes in the Senate. If you can't remove him, don't bother. Focus on winning back the House and Senate in 2026.
Time and time again, this image remains relevant
Without the ACA I would’ve entered life-altering levels of debt (or died?) so I have a slightly more favorable view of democrats than this. Occasionally they move the needle, even if I find them incredibly frustrating.
They absolutely can do good things, I was mostly referring to the fact that they knew that what is happening would happen and yet put in zero protections to protect Americans from literal fascism, instead they used fear mongering as a campaign tactic.
I mean that’s precisely why there was never a serious effort to codify Roe. It was too useful as a campaign line. And then it wasn’t.
Which congress would have voted for it?
Exactly this. When did they have the ability to codify Roe?
I hate it when people use into fear monger .
Fok >.< fixed. Thanks!
ACA eas what the Republicans were pushing for 20 years ago. Obamacare was straight up a copy of Mitt Romney's healthcare plan in Massachusetts, jjst at the federal level.
Yes we all know that and it doesn’t change my relationship with it
Did you know that when aragorn kicked the helmet, he broke his toe, and the yelling in the movie was actually his cries of pain they kept to enhance the scene?
I'm certainly glad the ACA helped you, and it certainly did address some major issues, but it was also massive wealth transfer to the top, and it had led directly into the financialization of healthcare that's currently destroying the system. Doctors are leaving medicine in droves and regularly takes six months or more to get an appointment with many specialties.
It was a bandaid on a festering wound of already financialized Healthcare, it's just continued to get worse as expected because the ACA was a half ass attempt at actually brining Healthcare to the people.
There was no large scale takeover of healthcare by Wall Street. There is a big difference between commercialization and financialization. By pumping billions into health are and allowing investors to siphon those billions right back out again, the ACA created a feeding frenzy. I'm old enough to remember a healthcare system that was largely owned and managed by medical professionals, not hedge funds and private equity.
Then, of course, there are the larger impacts of income inequality that this exacerbated. The ACA was one of many things done by both Republicans and Democrats that turned this country into a Russian style oligarchy.
It's not incidental that the design for the ACA came from the same right wing think tank that produced project 2025. It's all part of the same project.
Actually, no. The design for the ACA was actually based on the healthcare reforms put in place by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts, which were considered very popular and successful. The problem is that when they tried to make it go national, Republicans in general didn't want to give Obama a win, so they gutted it as much as possible.
Romneycare was pretty god damned good, even after the gutting it's taken over the years. If the ACA was built on what Romneycare originally was, we'd probably be in much better shape than we're in now.
You sure about that?. What do you think Romneycare was based on? Romneycare had many of the same issues. It really doesn't help the case that Obamacare's implementation was worse.
That's some serious cope from both sides, but you go ahead and hold on to that thread.
And this wouldn't have happened with private insurance without ACA because....?
It probably would have happened, but the ACA was like throwing gas on a fire or chumming for sharks. The individual mandate concept was specifically designed to derail actual reforms and accelerate wealth aggregation, and that's exactly what it did.
Do you think the Heritage Foundation was actually concerned about access to quality healthcare for everyone? We still spend even more person on healthcare than anywhere else on the planet, yet we still have 26 million Americans with no healthcare plan.
Amen Kent.
One of the things I hate about yes minister is how it still applies 40 years later. Like f%@$!
Ya I always laugh when people talk about how accurately the Simpsons predicts things. It's like, no, politics is just that fucking cyclical and the writers were smart.
I say were because it's not what it used to be.
Though I'd argue the Ds can govern
They do ok. But look at what's going on with gaza. They definitely arent batting 100. Plus all the governing they sometimes do must equally benefit the wealthy class or it won't happen.
Sure, but on the second point the GOP is so horrendous
They could not BE more wrong.
They could have prevented this from happening and chose to use the fear of fascism as a campaign tactic instead of putting in any protections. I'd say that's a pretty big failure to govern.
That's the idea. Impeach him after 26. It's in the article
Impeachment is the check against his power. It would be better to convict, but the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable. Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump's crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Impeachment is how you win those elections. Rolling over and showing your belly is why Democrats keep losing before the fight begins.
After January 6 they got several Republicans on the record for impeachment and conviction. All it did was get almost all the ones who did the right thing primaried out, all of which have been replaced by MAGA faithfuls. Those who voted against were praised for it and given more power.
I mean, in a better world, we would have competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. That we're losing the fight is not a reason to stop fighting. It's a reason to reevaluate our tactics and fight harder.
There are competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. The Democratic Party stands in their way.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I know they exist, but they could be running the party.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time. They would be better served (1) governing super well in places they are in charge (to demonstrate they are the better option - something that is inconsistent today); (2) figuring out why people are voting for Trump; (3) developing strong messaging and strategy to win races top to bottom of the ballot. I've been unimpressed with their ability to both run and govern recently (with some exceptions here and there). Maybe it is catching up with them.
Any time he's focusing on that is time he's not actively fucking shit up. Being obstructionist is what's gotten the Republicans to the place they are now.
And he doesn't get convicted and he'll campaign on how nasty the Dems are. An impeachment without conviction is a "win".
And that's a stupid ass argument. If the Democrats can't win that debate, then we need better candidates.
winning what? debates? you mean reasoning with a pigeon?
Are you new? You win by convincing people that you're right and they should vote for you. You can't do that if you never make the argument because it's too hard to win.
I think impeachment makes him stronger, it gives him whining, hysterical liberals to point at. Oppose and resist him, but just by calling out his BS, not trying to give him a traffic ticket and failing.
The people don't vote on impeachment. Convincing them won't help.
Oh you sweet summer child.
Ah, but this is the least effective way for Democrats to show their donors that they're still "fighting" for them. The only thing that matters now is manufacturing some talking point to get more donations in 2026.
This is actually counterproductive, the more times we do it when it's guaranteed to lose, the less likely it is to work.
The GOP had the votes to impeach biden. They didn't because even they know it's a stinker.