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Summary

Efforts to impeach Donald Trump for a third time are intensifying as he begins his second term.

The non-partisan group Free Speech For People launched the "Impeach Trump. Again" campaign, citing constitutional violations, including his alleged role in the January 6 Capitol riots and breaches of the emoluments clause.

The group also accuses Trump of campaign finance violations, xenophobic rhetoric, and abuse of power.

However, impeachment remains unlikely with Republicans controlling Congress. Democrats may revisit impeachment if they regain control in 2026.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Impeachment is the check against his power. It would be better to convict, but the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable. Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump's crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.

Impeachment is how you win those elections. Rolling over and showing your belly is why Democrats keep losing before the fight begins.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

After January 6 they got several Republicans on the record for impeachment and conviction. All it did was get almost all the ones who did the right thing primaried out, all of which have been replaced by MAGA faithfuls. Those who voted against were praised for it and given more power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, in a better world, we would have competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. That we're losing the fight is not a reason to stop fighting. It's a reason to reevaluate our tactics and fight harder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. The Democratic Party stands in their way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, because I know they exist, but they could be running the party.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In this moment impeachment is a waste of time. They would be better served (1) governing super well in places they are in charge (to demonstrate they are the better option - something that is inconsistent today); (2) figuring out why people are voting for Trump; (3) developing strong messaging and strategy to win races top to bottom of the ballot. I've been unimpressed with their ability to both run and govern recently (with some exceptions here and there). Maybe it is catching up with them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In this moment impeachment is a waste of time.

Any time he's focusing on that is time he's not actively fucking shit up. Being obstructionist is what's gotten the Republicans to the place they are now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And he doesn't get convicted and he'll campaign on how nasty the Dems are. An impeachment without conviction is a "win".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that's a stupid ass argument. If the Democrats can't win that debate, then we need better candidates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

winning what? debates? you mean reasoning with a pigeon?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Are you new? You win by convincing people that you're right and they should vote for you. You can't do that if you never make the argument because it's too hard to win.

[–] Tiger 5 points 2 days ago

I think impeachment makes him stronger, it gives him whining, hysterical liberals to point at. Oppose and resist him, but just by calling out his BS, not trying to give him a traffic ticket and failing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable

The people don't vote on impeachment. Convincing them won't help.

Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump’s crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.

Oh you sweet summer child.