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[–] napkin2020 5 points 3 hours ago

"Women voting? Sure why not. Anyone dumb enough to want to vote should be able to”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Anon wants to play as Micah

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The first time I ran into the KKK in the woods, I was really glad I had a stick of dynamite on me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's funny if you watch them for a minute too, their burning cross catches its surroundings on fire, burning many of them to death.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Interesting. Muuuch more satisfying to blow them up, though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's funny because moron used to be a medical term as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

These actually had distinction:

Defectives was generally the term prior to like 1845, which is when Howe published “on the causes of idiocy”. That led to more classification

Idiot was what we could call severe intellectual disability. Requiring 24 hour care but some muscular control, cognitive, and speech capabilities. Use was phased out in the late 19th century because it had become pejorative

Fool was a subcategory of idiot with more significant impairment of reasoning and speech skills. This became pejorative and was phased out.

Simpleton was moderate intellectual disability. Some degree of functioning, capacity for speech, motor and reasoning skills, but required assistance with tasks. This also become pejorative and was phased out (see a pattern). This was replaced with several terms, including feeble minded, imbecile, and moron, which were also in turn phased out.

at one point in the 19th century there was a distinction when symptoms of dementia set in. If you got what we would now call early onset dementia, it was called “amentia”. By the early 20th century “ament” was kind of a catch all for “idiots, imbeciles, and feeble minded”

There was also “cretin” which was originally supposed to be a kindness for all intellectually disabled people as it means “Christian” in French or something, but it also became pejorative

Another super racist one was mongoloid/mongolism which was specifically for Down’s syndrome. This is because, no joke, John Down thought people with down syndrome looked like Mongolians. His reward for his racism was the condition bears his name forever, apparently. This was only changed because Mongolia had to petition the WHO to change it because it was offensive

Imo instead of policing language we should maybe recognize that the intentionality behind the use of these terms is what the problem is.

Saying the word “retarded” does not have to be inherently offensive. Describing something that is slowed or hindered as retarded is accurate. Using retarded as a pejorative term makes you a dick, sure. But if I go through all the effort to change “retarded” to “intellectually disabled” guess what happens? The same thing that has happened for the past 175+ years. The people who have used the terms in the pejorative sense will quickly adapt, making your efforts to police language pointless unless you intended to enrich their lexicon.

If you consider actions that could actually be meaningful for the individual it would be something that would address the harm caused by pejorative use. That’s a challenging road to go down (imagine criminal penalties: middle schools would be ghost towns!). we want to feel like we do something though so we instead do this, which is pointless.

That said if the disorder was named by an old racist based on his racism then by all means change it up but maybe don’t memorialize him when you do it. That doesn’t come up as much anymore, thankfully

[–] [email protected] 29 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

And somehow this game is never part of the examples that some bigots are listing when talking about woke games.

Similarly with Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3. Both of those games are gay as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk got a lot of hate by that crowd leading into release, and they dunked on the release a ton as if it vindicated them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's obvious they've never read any of Mike Pondsmith's stuff if they think gender and sexuality in the Cyberpunk universe is any way at all viewed from a conservative lense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

I mean, they were just chuds angry that you could have a character with male and female sexual characteristics, I don't think any of them had the brainpower to read.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Well, yeah. That would require them to actually read and use their brain, and that's liberal shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

I only saw hate on release for bugs and for the way it ran. Not for being woke. Idk

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Which ones are they listing? I'm a bit out of the bigotry loop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago

Usually it is any game that has a woman as a main protagonist.

The biggest examples are:

Horizon Zero Dawn

There was "controversy" where devs were releasing promotional material for the game and they released a video where they showcased graphical advancements and they zoomed in really close on the MC and you can see the very thin hair on her face that literally every person has. Some people didn't like that.

The Last of Us 2 - very masculine woman

Fable - Not released yet, but the trailer had a woman that is not conventionally attractive.

Dragon Age Vanguard

Life is strange

Intergalactic The Heretic Prophet - new Naughty Dog's game, Black Woman as MC

This is just from the top of my head.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (18 children)

Much people forget before black slavery there was white slavery... So its just good if there is none slavery.

[–] threeganzi 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Are you saying white slavery was as systemic and width spread as black slavery in America? If so I’ve missed a big part of the American slave history.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

No, I'm just saying what I wrote. It is not meant to be an equality or anything else but just a statement that it is good without any slavery no matter what origin, skin color and (even if I am an atheist and despise any religion) religious affiliation. It was also not referring to Americans but a general statement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

what is it that drives the desperate need you have to bring it up in this context?

the vast majority of people who know history know about indentured servitude. but it's a footnote compared the the millions of people systematically stolen (not indentured, note), taken to another part of the planet and bred for labor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes ok then say that you are happy that slavery of black people has stopped and that you don't care about any other form of slavery. < That's what the statement suggests because you're not talking about slavery in general but explicitly about black slaves...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

that’s what the statement suggests because you’re not talking about slavery in general but explicitly about black slaves…

pfft that's the most 13-year old racist edgelord shit I've heard in ages.

No, that's not what that says, you silly twat, lol... ok so there's this thing called context. And the context in which slavery was introduced, in this thread, was regarding the protagonist in the game going after slavery supporters.

AND YOU HAD TO FUCKIN' CHIME IN BUT BUT NOT ALL SLAVES-

motherfucking couldn't resist the urge. So answer the fucking question: what is it, inside you, that is so desperate that you need to reply with that specious bullshit?

TAKEN IN THE CONTEXT OF RDR2, the history of the US, it's referring to the human stain of racists enslaving black people for their entire lives, and the lives of their children in perpetuity. a very different thing compared to what irish indentured servants experienced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

The nice thing is that even population groups elsewhere on earth who never had anything to do with slavery condemn all slavery and also that it is good if slavery is generally ended. Without differentiating whether black or white because slavery is to be despised whether black or white. Do you think a black slave would have sought a difference to a white slave and vice versa? No...after all, both would have experienced the same fate... It is those who are not affected who want to differentiate as if one slavery is worse than the other... those who are affected would not do that...

[–] threeganzi 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but the image is about a game taking place in American history. I agree that no slavery is good but you comment doesn’t add much to the historical context. If anything removes nuance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Would be good without modern slavery right? Penal labor. But well affected are black white whatever.
But I could have expressed myself more directly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

There is a certain type of whataboutism where people are just super eager to remind people that "well, actually, white people were slaves too" when referring to slavery in America. It's likely why they appear to be more on guard about what you're saying.

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