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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Yogthos is always here to provide the shittiest of takes and the most phallical of fallacies.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 17 points 3 hours ago

It almost feels like posting yogthos is cheating

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I honestly can't tell if these .ml guys in these discussions are trolling or just spouting retarded nonsense and calling everyone a Nazi for the sake of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

I wonder how many of them work in russia and china. their shittakes are hilariously tanky

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Hey, no judgement, but we're trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it's been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This war has nothing to do with any people's right to self determination. It is a clash between two imperialist powers. Russia's actions are criminal and cruel and it needs to be stopped. The same goes for China and even more so the DPRK. But the fastest way to do so is to end the war asap. Just because one imperialism is less atrocious doesn't mean it should be a permissible leftist policy to support imperialism. That's what the socdems did in Europe in 1914, and it cost the working class a golden opportunity to revolt. In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple. On neither side is it the ruling class that is suffering and dying - it's working class people with their views clouded by nationalism, propaganda, and the promise of money or freedom from prison.

What Karl Liebknecht said over 100 years ago has lost nothing of its truth - The main enemy is at home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

So you support full scale mobilisation of NATO to match on Moscow right? That'd end the war right quick.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago

Yogthos is a clown

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yogthos drank the vatnik koolaid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

When in ml, do as the red fascists do.

[–] gemini99 -3 points 2 hours ago

Heh, he is pretty accurate in this =)

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I dont get how tankies can support a "communist" nation like China that has an investor class and whose system requires the mistreatment of the proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

"Because they'll eventually take away their wealth or kill them" is an argument I've actually seen on .ml. I'm not against the sentiment of getting rid of the capitalists but cmon, when someone says China isn't socialist and points at a clearly capitalist behavior you can't be "it's still socialist because the capitalist thing will be fixed in the future". Then every country might as well be socialist, we'll just fix capitalism at some later date.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At least China goes through the motions of being Communist. They also somehow support 21st century Russia which is just openly an authoritarian oligarchy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

My 'favorite' is when they defend clerical fascism in Iran as some kind of fantastic anti-capitalist development,

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago

Don't worry, someone will be along shortly to recommend 2000 pages of communist literature that wouldn't even prove their point even if you read it all.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because they don't support communism. They just like one version of ogliarchy better than the other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

They're authoritarians not communists ie. the ole schtick.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yogthos is the kind of piece of shit that "critically supports" bombing Ukrainian kindergartens and maternity wards as long as, somewhere in the world, at least one Western tear is shed over it. Blocking them makes the fediverse far less unpleasant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder why that user account is above the rules of the instance and its communities. The modlog is full of examples which should apply to their behavior as well

[–] Justas 7 points 2 hours ago

They're a mod of several .ml communities. Just like every communist dictatorship, laws and rules don't matter when it's the one in charge breaking them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago

One of the best decisions I've made

[–] [email protected] 43 points 12 hours ago

Average Yogthos verbal vomit.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Wut? Was he talking about the previous Ukrainian government, sponsored by Russia™? I can't make sense of what he is saying, actually.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Dude doesn't know about Euromaidan. I wish some of these children would go to russia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

They like the idea of Russia, not actual Russia.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I had to reread it a few times myself, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's talkin about

Because everyone knows Russia is well known for their totally legit free and fair elections/s

[–] [email protected] 24 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

i got a veteran friend who would not take kindly to people saying her country should be permanently tied to a country whose name she refuses to spell correctly. the .ml tankists have, apparently, no concept of a false flag operation

[–] Justas 2 points 2 hours ago

When Russia interferes, it's fair and democratic elections, when the weat spens a few million on pro-democracy and anti-corruption initiatives it's Western election interference and bad.

[–] Justas 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

When Russia interferes, it's fair and democratic elections, when the west spens a few million on pro-democracy and anti-corruption initiatives it's Western election interference and bad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago

Or they argue in bad faith.

I hope so because I don't want to believe people can be so stupid they can probably not breathe and walk simultaneously.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Huh. And here I thought Yogthos was a Chinese plant. Turns out they like the taste of Russian leather just the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago

Frankly I suspect many pinch hit for both teams.

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