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The factuality of this is irrelevant as 99% of the time this will be used as a weapon to bully people. No one on facebook talks about metaphysics. Does anyone really think that there are meta discussions about the origins "of the gay" and what it means in our collective society?
Americans really fucked the world with their elections this year and it's just the beginning.
I'm sure I am speaking to the choir here, but body dismorphia is the mental illness here, and transgenderism is the cure.
Pre-transition transgender people are mentally ill, due to the emotional pain that comes from being trapped in a body that they don't feel represents themselves. The cure for that illness is, of course, transitioning into the gender that makes them feel like themselves. So, a fully transitioned transgender person is no longer mentally ill, at least from body dismorphia.
Therefore, people who are against things like puberty blockers and HRT are literally trying to keep mentally ill people from getting better. I am okay with body dismorphia being referred to as a mental illness, in accordance with medical science. The fact that it is a mental illness shows the cruelness of the people fighting against the literal cure for it.
However, I am sure Facebook is going to just let anyone refer to perfectly happy and fully-transition transgendered people as mentally ill, which is most definitely not true, and shouldn't be allowed.
Obligatory Fuck Zuck.
Wouldn't that make it a physical illness, not a mental illness?
In a way, you could say that. It's also a societal one. Its a whole lot of problems rolled up into one, really.
Body dismorphia is only a mental illness in the sense that it causes a lot of emotional distress. Not in the sense that it is a delusion or the person is crazy, or anything.
Based on what I've seen on the platform I didn't realize they even had that rule in the first place
Being an executive of Meta who succumb to conservashit rhetoric is a mental ilness.
Meta sucks and allowing accusations of mental illness is shitty.
That said, "allegations of abnormality" and "weird" are hard to take issue with. There is nothing at all wrong with being gay or trans, but by the numbers it is absolutely "weird" and "abnormal". This is exactly what the word "queer" means, by definition.
Accusing of mental illness is reproachable, but weird and abnormal are both accurate. You no what else is abnormal? Being exceptional. These are not bad conditions to find yourself in, but neither are they "normal" by population.
Don't equate "weird" and "abnormal" here? One word has an exclusively negative connotation, the other is a much more considered, clinical word.
They are not the same thing
No?
Top definitions by Merriam Webster for weird:
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Of strange or extraordinary character: Odd, Fantastic
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of, relating to, or caused by witchcraft or the supernatural: Magical
People use either of these words to mean something negative, just like they do for any word that implies being different from the majority. That doesn't change their definitions though.
People need to get a grip. This really feels like mass psychosis.
- Walk into Nazi bar.
- Pay dues to be a member (consume advertising, provide personal data).
- Be astonished at the fascist rhetoric of the Nazi bar!
If it were possible it would be fascinating to study the brains of people who do this. Is it old scar tissue from physical blows? Lesions from infections or illness? Just too much drugs and alcohol? Perhaps it's a vascular issue from failing organs and too much salt? Food dye, radiation, lead?
Comparing Facebook to a Nazi bar is ridiculous.
Facebook, just like all social media companies, has continually used the overton window as its standard for acceptable content. When political leanings shift, the way the company polices content on its platform, chooses what topics to boost or bury, and decides what topics to promote as part of its corporate culture changes.
It is by its very nature the thing that maximizes the political acceptableness of content for advertisers to appear next to. Most people joined Facebook when the political climate was nowhere near as right-wing as it is now, so it's not like they walked in, saw a sign that said "We're Nazis" and went "okay, this is fine."
The fact they're changing their hateful conduct policy now is what's turning them into the Nazi bar, they weren't always that way. (and yes, I'm aware Facebook and Zuck did tons of horrible shit in the past, but as a platform it wasn't anywhere near the level of terrible it will be now, nor did it have anywhere near Nazi levels of political leanings)
And not to mention how the network effect kind of changes this from "Nazi Bar" to "Nazi City" because it has a much more difficult process to escape due to it quite literally holding you and all your friends, family, photos, and videos hostage. There's less of a choice when it comes to leaving platforms that ensnare you with network effects than there is to simply leave a bar.
Comparing Facebook to a Nazi bar is ridiculous.
not really considering meta has several nazis on their board.
Who exactly? At present I'm wholly unaware of anybody on the FB board who I'd call a Nazi.
I'm genuinely asking by the way, that isn't meant to be some kind of rebuttal.
However, I would again note the fact that any current board members were likely not on the board when many Facebook users joined, (and the lock-in they experience keeps them there) and even if they were, what kind of person is ever aware of individual corporate board members?
Extrapolating that back out to your Nazi bar analogy, that would be like if you went into a bar, the people in there were your friends and family, the workers at the front were normal people, but the person who owned the LLC behind the bar was a Nazi. In that case, to "be astonished at the fascist rhetoric of the Nazi bar" isn't exactly unexpected!
Presumably they'll roll back their censorship of Palestinian journalists now they love free speech so much.
you see, free speech is only for reactionaries.
That's pretty much what conservative/right-wing 'freedom' is: freedom for me but not for thee.
You can now refer to women as property on Facebook and they are A-OK with that! But you will, and it has happened to me, catch an instant ban if you say all men are trash.
Maybe it's just me but I don't think people should be saying or be allowed to say either of those two things. Neither of those two things are good for anyone.
I suppose that was ops point
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“getting rid” of restrictions on speech about “topics like immigration, gender identity and gender” that the company describes as frequent subjects of political discourse and debate. “It’s not right that things can be said on TV or the floor of Congress, but not on our platforms,”
Yet when my mom tried to post about a museum visit, Facebook wouldn't let her because it contained the word "Lenin". Interesting.
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I stopped letting Meta take my attention once they started making my feed fill itself with "reccomended" "you might like" pages and profiles that I at no point ever clicked on or searched for.
before, my feed was exclusively my friends content, and pages I followed.
now, they fill the gaps with evangelicals, gambling, and idiots posting chinese and russian war propaganda.
yup, get the fuck out. im done.
My entire feed is just nonsense now. Last year a guy I knew from my Warcraft days had cancer while a relative in Canada had a baby.
They both posted these things on Facebook.
What Facebook showed me was constant spam, so now I just see chess puzzle channels from India, street cooking videos from places with no hygiene laws, magic eye pictures and retro games. I've never asked it for any of these things, yet some algorithm detected I paused for a millisecond while scrolling past them so now that's all I get. Fuck the people I know, right?
It used to be useful for exactly one thing and it can't even do that any more. The only way you can actually see a proper feed without spam is to go into a person/group's profile directly.
I decided I was going to discontinue using Meta products except to put out an occasional Instagram photo, pushed to Facebook, to tell...people I don't even talk to anymore, and for good reason...that I was alive and a sight of what I was doing. I discontinued my old Facebook profile and made a new one only for this purpose.
Because Facebook kind of sees me as a new user, I'm able to see content I wasn't able to before. And fuck, that place feels like some weird scam and bot flea market.
I hope it's soon to die but who knows if it'll transform into some unmasked arm of the government for surveillance.
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Oh it's a complete ghost town. Absolutely useless as actual social media. I suppose you could try starring/favoriting all your friends lol...
He praised X, a competitor, in his video announcement. I guess Musk was right. "Zuck is a cuck."
“It’s not right that things can be said on TV or the floor of Congress, but not on our platforms,” Meta’s newly appointed chief global affairs officer, Joel Kaplan, wrote in a blog post outlining the changes.
This is the same Joel Kaplan that participated in the brooks brothers riot stopping the recount of the ballots during the bush v gore election in 2000 where the republicans stole the election forever changing the course of American history.
META is failing. Mark is bending the knee because that's his only move.
Joel David Kaplan (born 1969) is an American political advisor, lobbyist, and attorney. In January 2025, it was announced that Kaplan will become the president of global affairs of Meta Platforms, owner of Facebook, in Spring 2025.[1][2][3] He has been the company's vice president of global public policy since 2011.
A longtime Republican political operative, Kaplan served eight years in the George W. Bush administration, including as White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy.[4]
Embarrassing no matter what your politics are. The fuck is the former White House Deputy Chief of Staff (the successor of Karl Rove under GWB, ffs) doing at Facebook? Did the job offer to Hitler fall through?
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I’ve always seen people say and post this. The fact checking was selectively enforced. Better to have none than a half assed attempt
I'll bite. Meta, obviously, never actually cared about free speech. Zuckerberg also said that they are about to flood the platforms with AI bots to increase engagement. I'd say getting rid of fact checkers is only to avoid having their own bots automatically brought down by their own moderation. The rest is a façade
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Facebook is a shitty place to be. In related "no shit, sherlock" news, the sun is still hot.
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I'm trans. I do have mental illness. It's because society keeps sending me signals that I shouldn't exist.
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