He's the punishment America deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
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America deserves what is to come
Yeah, maybe. But the rest of us sure fucking don’t. I feel a bit like a some random American I don’t know or endorse voted for me on a few global issues.
I’m pissed about that, I have to admit.
Americans always say the 2nd amendment is there to prevent dictatorships. How about you proof it this time?
I made these so when things start going bad, we could put these up as a reminder.
The only reason this isn't the best idea ever is I would have to have his face on my phone to use them. But I don't know what the solution to that is.
I've bookmarked and maybe I can remember.
Thank you for your service
The Democratic Party repeatedly expressed the need for a strong Republican Party. They sure got it.
Joe Biden said as much, out loud, several times.
I am American, and I have always loved my country. Until now, I've never been ashamed to call myself patriotic. My thought has always been than there will always be uninformed, uneducated assholes that vote against their own self-interests and the interests of their own country.
This election is different, though. We knew exactly what we were getting if we re-elected Trump. We responded by not only electing him in a landslide election, but handing the House and the Senate over to the Republicans, too. It was a clear message. America is not a nation of mostly good people with a few vocal "bad apples." We are a nation of hateful, scared bigots, and we proved it in a big way.
This was a turning point in American history, and the majority of us sent a clear message to their fellow citizens and to the world. America is not a nation of mostly good people being overshadowed by a media that covers the loudest assholes in the room. America is a nation of people who by a majority support exactly what the "crazy" Republicans are saying. I would feel better if Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote, but that's not what happened.
This isn't an election where I've lost only lost faith in the democratic process or my fellow citizens, although both are true. This is an election where I've lost faith in my country as a whole. I have never been proudly Republican or proudly Democrat, but I've always been proudly American. Now I'm just... sad. I don't expect I'll see a day any time soon where I can honestly say I'm proud of my country. The best I can do is retreat into my own personal bubble, live my life, and watch the world burn around me until the flames consume everything I care about.
America is not a nation of mostly good people with a few vocal "bad apples." We are a nation of hateful, scared bigots, and we proved it in a big way.
A big chunk of the rest of the world have telling you that for decades, but you guys believed the lie about some “shining city upon a hill”. The American dream was always built on the misery of others.
For me, it was the days and weeks after Jan 6th, when it became clear that outright insurrection, a violent coup, was not going to spark a course correct.
The republican party should have shattered. The non-fascists should have woken up, and fought with MAGA, and years later, a viable political party rise from the ashes.
But that didn't happen. A few conscientious dissenters fell on their swords, most at retirement age anyway. Fascism took over completely. And the American people ate it up.
Weeks after Jan 6th, it was clear that consequences were not coming. They took their mask off, and no one cared, or couldn't stop them.
And here we are. Convicted felon with absolute power on his way to the Whitehouse, who owns the SCOTUS, Senate, and likely the House.
Trump will have unchecked power to do whatever he damn well pleases.
Way to fucking go, America. I fucking hate my countrymen.
Thanks for writing this for me.
I'm in the same boat. I'm a white straight guy. So, I guess I'm not in immediate danger, although I am an academic. So, I guess my choices are: fight, flee or essentially hide.
Fighting seems infeasible although I think violence is justifiable.
Fleeing would require leaving the country. I dunno if I can swing that.
So....I guess I just live my life and hope it's not quite as bad as I fear? I dunno. I'm open to advice.
I do now hate this country and the bulk of the people who live here. Fuck them.
Do you have any advice for a trans woman who is probably in immediate danger?
I'm not familiar with any organizations so I don't have much advice, but this web search has a lot of resources that look like they may be helpful.
Sorry I can't be more helpful. Stay safe!
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm 40, started paying attention to politics in the Clinton years and then really paying attention with Bush v Gore in 2000. America was full on neolib vs neocon bullshit back then, a quarter of a century ago. The 2nd Iraq War was a big moment for me of realizing that the only thing America stands for is corporate hegemony. Project 25 is no different than the Project for a New American Century, and the "opposition" from the "left" isn't fundamentally against any of it, they just pay a bit more lip service to culture issues (which are of course important if you aren't a cis white christian male, but they are clearly not enough).
Tl;dr
I am close to the same age and something feels different now. The Trump administration is many levels of degenerate beyond the Bush administration. Even Dick fucking Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris FFS. I think Trump is pretty far beyond neocon, unfortunately. Just straight up Fascist.
The Neocons may have started rolling this snowball back then, but it is an avalanche now.
I'm with you. It was absolutely soul crushing to watch the worst person to run for president get elected on no qualifications and give us reasons to despise him deeply every day for 8 years. But even worse was that people cheered him the fuck on. Then demanded more. This country is lost. We have no reason to hope anymore. Everything good is in danger and everything dangerous is a possibility. We're fucked. I'll never have another warm and fuzzy feeling about this country or its institutions.
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I just want fucking Healthcare and not-extinction.
Healthcare is going away for most people as are women's rights and rights, really, for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian man. You guys really fucked yourselves, and to a great extent everyone else, this time. Get ready for the biggest deficit in global history followed by a depression for the ages.
sorry, best i can do is fascism
Throw in a side of pollution to make sure our health care costs rise further, we need to feed those middle men companies, well... At least their board members. We can lay off all the workers in between and fight with an automated system for 6 hours while never being able to get through. That's my dream.
They also solidified this form of political campaigning. Its only going to get more hateful from here on out. We are watching Nero burn Rome.
We are watching Nero burn Rome.
Watching? Hell, a third of us fucking gave Nero a match while spraying the city with gasoline, and another third said "You know, I do like s'mores..."
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The leopards are about to have a face buffet.
Something to keep in mind.
Trump didn't win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.
The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I'm not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying "They're eating the dogs!". So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with "Dewey defeats Truman" in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn't stomach voting for Trump, but they'd rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she's black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. "We don't want Trump, but we'd rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her."
The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.
We can't even say that it's an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.
Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said "Trump!", but because they said "Not Harris."
You made the point yourself: the majority did not speak up. The majority of voters spoke up, and they're a minority of Americans.
Whether the problem they have is the fact that she's black, female, or both is irrelevant.
Please consider that it could be neither.
The way I look at it is that Democrat initiatives did well on the ballots. She didn't. When her initiatives are doing well but states like California, New York, and New Jersey are voting 40+% for Trump, that's a tell-tale sign that people liked what she was selling. They just didn't want her to be the one to sell it.
How did we lose Latino votes? I don’t see how they can possibly relate to Trump for all his rhetoric.
I don't mean to sound stereotypical and I know not all Latinos feel this way, but Latino men tend to have a very strong sense of male dominance and a very strong mistrust of the police. For a lot of them, there was never a chance you were going to get them to vote for a black, female former prosecutor.
I haven't read the whole article so I can't say I agree with anything it says, but I just found this:
"From the beginning of the election to its final days, Latino voters in interviews and polls consistently named the economy, inflation or higher costs as their No. 1 issue and gave Trump the advantage on them."
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There’s no blaming the Russians this time around. There’s no blaming media malpractice. There’s still some blame to attribute to voter suppression, but majorities elect the people who suppress the votes...
what a stupid fucking article. why carve out exceptions for shit you don't understand and then double down on the politico.
fuck i hate journalists.
Christ - because it's not as though the media contributes massively to voter suppression.
Journalistic malpractice is one of the main causes - if not the main cause of this result.
On one hand, it's going to be funny watching them cry about it once the consequences of their actions start to impact their lives negatively.
On the other hand, I live in Canada, so it's going to fuck us over too.
Remember, with doublespeak they’ll continue* to blame the democrats while their Republican leaders dismantle their rights, the economy, and the government right in front of their eyes.
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American conservatives wouldn't understand personal responsibility, especially the ones that crow about others not taking it, if it was literally rage fucking their assholes without lube.
And it absolutely will be once Trump's policies are in effect.
But somehow it will still be Obama's fault because the poor, ignorant fools consider critical thinking to be a librul plot like climate change and gravity.
Had a friend that took the conspiracist road to Nazism, and this isn't an exaggeration - the dictionary is a Jewish plot, so is any empirical evidence, the existence of qualified experts, observable phenomena...
The small mercy is that the idiots and monsters that voted for Trump and the dipshits that couldn't be bothered to vote to stave off fascism will drown in the river of shit alongside the well-meaning folk that did their best (or anything at all) to stop this.
what will the rest of the world get from this? the obvious one would be higher emissions and more fucked weather...
Second hand fascism
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I'm absolutely sure this idiot has 4 years to fuck the world up. He's not going to make us great again by helping anyone else...
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