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[–] [email protected] 234 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Big ups to those people who “voted against genocide”.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Special shout-out to the folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought my state would go blue. Went out to vote anyway and voted blue. Brought my spouse out to vote as well. Our state did not go blue. Country is fucked

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

Admittedly not all the votes are in, but...

  • Pennsylvania - Trump up by 130k votes, Jill Stein got 33k votes
  • Michigan - Trump up by 84k votes, Jill Stein got 45k votes
  • Wisconsin - Trump up by 28k votes, Jill Stein got 12k votes

Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.

Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.

This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.

This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden's 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren't 15M votes left to count.

Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My election registration got canceled three times this year. The last two times it was because of a "duplicate", and they were counting my canceled registrations as duplicates. I have no idea if my ballot got counted, or if it was discarded.

I vote blue in one of those red states...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

The DNC failed, plain and simple.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Taking the data from here and throwing it in a spreadsheet, Trump got more votes than everyone else combined, including the Libertarian party, RFK Jr, and Write-ins.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Honestly, it doesn't matter, even if every single 3rd party voter went for Harris, Trump still wins

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Utterly bizarre. I expected Trump might squeak out an electoral win, but the popular vote as well? Thanks everyone who stayed the fuck home. You sat by as fascism was ushered in to the US.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Same. I'm not sure if I'm more... "Ok" with this? We should still abolish the electoral college, but we were shafted by the American people this time (and the propaganda machine making things worse). It's the first time since I turned 18 that the GOP actually won the popular vote... Sigh

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Big thanks to all the Americans who voted in favor of another trump presidency. He couldn't have won without them.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Like every election, only about 1/3 of eligible voters did. I will never again listen to a single fucking thing people who didn't vote or those who threw theirs away on a 3rd-party candidate have to say.

There are people in fascist authoritarian countries (incoming in 3, 2, 1...) who would love to vote and have it matter. They would even choose to die for it...

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Trump didn’t get more votes than 2020.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And despite that he still got millions of votes. Millions of Americans want this. We're a country of terrible people.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Hey now. We’re only half full of terrible people. Some of us did our best to do the right thing.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter. You are ignoring the rot at the core. Even if people turned out and kamala won - it Trump should have broken the Republican party. It should not have been a competition.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (42 children)

Alright! So Palestine is free now, right guys?....right?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago

Palestine is freed... from existing.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The genocide will finally stop!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Of course they are! The non-voters and 3rd party voters did exactly what they said they’d do to free Palestine and now It’s all flowers and hugs as far as the eye can see over there!

Don’t mind the big sign in right in the center of their city that reads “Future Site of Giant Crater”, that’s nothing at all to worry about. Just focus on all the hugs!

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Yeah, both parties went down from 2020 counts. We literally had something like 18m or 20m who didn't show up combined.

Wild stuff. Oh well, we rode this roller-coaster once, we ride it again. Maybe this round we don't lose 2% of our population?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'll bet we never find out how many were denied the ability to vote because of registration purges, bomb threats, and other malicious voter suppression.

But the fact that states both voted for abortion access at the state level and then also voted in all Republicans who will pass a national ban shows the voting population is stupid enough that this was the likely outcome anyway.

Fuck this country.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those numbers up. And they have a whole playbook ready for it this time, so things are gonna get interesting and tragic sooner than later.

Bonus points that if we make through, we can look forward to new exciting wars about water resources and inhospitable climate problems

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Yes, a Very Special Thanks to the morally pure angels who refused to vote for Kamala Harris because they were standing on high ground about some issue they disliked her on. Well done, fuckheads.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

When you lose an election this badly, people are clearly not buying you’re selling.

But damn I did not expect so many people to sit out against the guy who did the coup and amongst all the other shit. If there is any light ahead, I think it’s that this L forces the Democratic Party to lean back left with their campaign promises, and whatever power they have left to affect policy.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago

They are fucking incapable of learning this.

Bernie polled great against Trump but they snubbed him for Hillary and we lost because of it.

The only reason Biden won was because he wasn't Trump and we were tired of him at that point.

Kamala had a chance to swing a little more left but continued to try to court moderate conservatives and the suburbs instead.

They just can't get it through their heads that: Trump and maga are winning as a reaction of "fuck the system". This mostly stems from corporations and the filthy rich not being taxed enough and us not spending enough on social programs. That energy could have been captured and utilized by running a leftist.

But instead we get milquetoast business as usual bullshit

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If there is any light ahead, I think it’s that this L forces the Democratic Party to lean back left with their campaign promises, and whatever power they have left to affect policy.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That genocide is gonna stop any day now

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Didn't you hear? All Palestinians got a personal check for $1 million straight from trump himself.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, at least Palestine won’t be a stumbling block next election. 1 state solution it is I guess, sigh

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is going to have/help Israel just erase Gaza and the Palestinians as a people, there will be no need for any "solution". And this is apparently what all these people sitting out wanted in the end. Hope they enjoy the view from their high horse.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago

If you choose not to vote and you’re not happy about the election outcome, well that’s your choice.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

when does the candidate become responsible for their own turnout

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

"If liberals are so fucking smart why do they lose so goddamn always?"

  • Will McAvoy "The Newsroom"

I don't think it's fair to blame voters when it's the politician's job during s campaign to convince people they're worth voting for.

Adopting unpopular centrist policies and aligning more and more with centrist Biden's policies as the campaign went on is just going to fill voters with apathy.

The Democrats, once again, didn't give us a candidate to vote for, only one to vote against. And I think the American people are sick of that carrot-stick routine, the Dems need to actually adopt popular policies.

And the establishment Dems are going to fight that tooth and nail.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We need a new party for the working class. The democrats are no longer that party and it cannot be saved.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

The message was loud and clear: America writ large is not ready for anything less than a straight, white, male president. Its time to stop being delusional, Obama was a fluke, and not going to be repeated. You might not like hearing it, but its the reality on the ground, don't take it from me.

In retrospect, I think Biden could have shat himself on live TV while asleep at the podium and probably have still gotten elected, the bar was so, so low. Kamala basically ran a prefect campaign, its just not what America wants.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obama was a once in many generation politician, he had charisma and appeal no democrat president ever had. Democrats better field a white straight male from now on if they want to win, forget women president for 3-4 decades now. The kind of misogyny in america is crazy, I am from India, a third world country and even we had a female Prime Minister in our 75 year of independent history, and she was very much respected and one of the most popular. America in its 250 year of history had none, thats just crazy for a so called superpower

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Good news, you'll all be able to sit out the next one as well!

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