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[–] [email protected] 235 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Big ups to those people who “voted against genocide”.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Special shout-out to the folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought my state would go blue. Went out to vote anyway and voted blue. Brought my spouse out to vote as well. Our state did not go blue. Country is fucked

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

Admittedly not all the votes are in, but...

  • Pennsylvania - Trump up by 130k votes, Jill Stein got 33k votes
  • Michigan - Trump up by 84k votes, Jill Stein got 45k votes
  • Wisconsin - Trump up by 28k votes, Jill Stein got 12k votes

Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.

Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.

This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.

This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden's 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren't 15M votes left to count.

Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I blame the Stein voters exactly as much as I blame the people staying at home. And neither as much as the people who voted for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

And you lay absolutely zero blame at the feet of the Democratic Party itself?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

A good chunk of biden voters then were shepherded in by Bernie since Biden ended up compromising with Bernie for the transition.

Imagine if Harris threw a bone to the left. Those are some of the 15 million who stayed home.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

The DNC failed, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

And Pennsylvania and Georgia. The so-called swing states really took a wild swing this time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Got me there, though if you look and tally only the left candidates who might've actually gone for Harris otherwise it's still not true.

And in any case, she still loses even if she got these states.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But they wanna blame someone who doesn't impact anything! Why blame a bad campaign when you can blame 0.03% of the voters!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It was a good campaign. Maybe it could have been even better, sure, but the amount of Monday night quarterbacking in here is silly.

The only thing I can question about it, I'm not even sure about.

The problem wasn't anything the campaign did. The problem was that "did joe Biden drop out" was trending on Google the day of the election. Tell me how to reach those people.

Do you think there weren't enough ads? Not enough door knocking? What exactly, would you have them do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

No it was an objectively bad campaign. Harris should have run as a change candidate and distanced herself from Biden. That was the whole point of getting him to drop out. He was less popular than Trump

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think you can educate people who learned Biden dropped out on election night, those people are too stupid to vote. Especially since my YouTube for weeks after Harris was the nominee, I got a lot of donation ads staring her, not once mentioning Biden.

I don't know if more ads would have gotten her a bigger spotlight, but I do know that its political non-sense to claim to help those who fascist targets, then ignore the calls of those who fascist targets, and then buddy up with subtler-fascists like Dick and Liz Chaney.

Its like she was trying to say "You go along with this, you're never going to vote for Trump, he hates you, I don't." And she was right, they didn't vote for Trump as he hates them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually think people who think any part of politics is "plain and simple" are the real problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"The real problem" sounds pretty plain and simple that.

Seriously though what are you saying? What's the point of that statement?

They failed, that's plain and simple. The cause behind that? Probably more complicated.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Third party votes were pretty much at their average. Except in Deerborn Michigan, but that’s still not enough to flip Michigan and I can’t blame Muslim voters there from being pissed.

They should be pissed. We all should be pissed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if my state is California?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter. Point is, some states will, without a question, vote blue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

So you voted third party and don't want to admit you helped Trump win. Nice

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Taking the data from here and throwing it in a spreadsheet, Trump got more votes than everyone else combined, including the Libertarian party, RFK Jr, and Write-ins.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looking at that chart, she would have won in Wisconsin and gotten their ten electoral votes.

What does it look like for the rest of the states?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Across the country, it was Trump: 71,825,780 Everyone else: 69,303,000

It says at the top of the page it was last updated a day ago, but I kind of doubt the numbers will change too dramatically.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

67m for Harris to 72m (rounded up) on the BBC; it was really not close eh.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden got 81.2 million.

How the fuck are people not voting. After all that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

How the fuck are people not voting.

Massive voter suppression, and propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The other person was making the point that you can't do it by total popular vote, you have to do it by state and then look at their electoral college votes.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honestly, it doesn't matter, even if every single 3rd party voter went for Harris, Trump still wins

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Now count those that didn’t vote at all.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But how else will they blame anyone but themselves?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The meme is literally how else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah I heard halo polish is on sale at Walmart, they should check it out.