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[–] n3m37h 81 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sad when a comedian has more balls than all of NATO combined

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the fuck is that artwork?

It’s disrespectful to South Park.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Just need to get a little cancer, Stan

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're making it look like it's Ukraine's choice. They're being forced to the nuclear path by the internal enemies within NATO that are fucking everything up

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ukraine gave up those nukes in exchange for security assurances. If Russia is going to go back on its assurance, then Ukraine should be able to go back to the nukes. Fair is fair.

As a former SSR that held nuclear weapons on its territory before 1968, they even oughta be free and clear with respect to the non proliferation treaty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I been saying this for years, and it's really nice to see someone say this too while also not getting 1000 downvotes. I shed a tear of joy for the new generation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a former SSR that held nuclear weapons on its territory before 1968, they even oughta be free and clear with respect to the non proliferation treaty.

Is that true? If the worst comes to pass, I wonder what the UN will say (not that it matters...)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

what the UN will say

"Well, they have nukes now, so international law is now more like international suggestions for them"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is NonCredibleDefense. So it's true if it would be funny if it were true.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In UN

Russia's deligate is beyond furious. Most everyone has an awkward look. China is getting very annoyed with their vassal's war, and someone on the floor:

wringing hands "Well technically its within Ukraine's rights..."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is that true? If the worst comes to pass, I wonder what the UN will say (not that it matters...)

[–] ArbitraryValue 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

It's a bold move but I don't see it changing the outcome of the ongoing war. If Ukraine could build long-range ballistic missiles in the near future, I think they could regain the advantage even without any nuclear warheads. Nuclear warheads would not be useful without those ballistic missiles.

(What would happen if Ukraine did have nuclear-armed ballistic missiles but Russia refused to withdraw from Ukrainian territory? I don't foresee Ukraine actually nuking Russia, even in those circumstances.)

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A truck can deliver a nuke. Just pack it in cat litter and drive it onto that bridge in Crimea. Should knock that stupid thing out finally.

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[–] nuke 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Man fuck these comments, nuke Russia you pussies. I'll deliver the missiles myself if that's what you need. Strap me to the rocket and fire me at Moscow!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Name checks out?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Fuck it, give them a Davy Crocket and then you don't need no stinkin' ballistic missiles.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

While I agree with your second argument that Russia would probably just call them on their bluff, I don't think they'd need long range ballistic missiles. They seem to operate on russian soil a lot, and you could put a big nuke into a larger van easily.

[–] nuke 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's why it shouldn't be a bluff. Fucking nook em

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tankies will be in here supporting nuclear options unironically.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

No they won't!

They supported nuclear options only so long as their cock-holster putin was the only one with said option.

Now it becomes 'Everyone has to forcefully disarm a rogue nuclear state for Russia!' or some other bs.

Give them time, their talking points are slow over the weekend.

[–] humblebun 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why, why Mr. Zelensky, don't you develop nuclear weapons like other nations: in silence?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

No development required, I think they can open a drawer somewhere and pick one of several soviet designs. If they want a nuke, they can build one right away.

It would cost them the support of their allies, however, and they cannot afford that.

It's saber rattling.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

The support may be dropping away anyway.

Imagine a right wing US/EU election sweep from Zelensky's point of view. They're going to force Ukraine to capitulate, and in a very lopsided manner that cripples Ukraine forever, hence this could be an actual option/last resort more than a threat.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Building a nuke is not difficult. Refining the necessary amount of uranium 235, or acquiring plutonium 239 however...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

He's stated they have the material and could have a nuke within weeks I believe.they have reactors so the material isn't hard to come by really

[–] nuke 12 points 1 month ago

Khajiit has wares, if you have coin

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The engineering for plutonium nuke is not trivial. A U235 one is dead simple, but they probably have Plutonium from reactors, not U235 from centrifuges.

And yeah, they undoubtedly have Soviet blueprints under a matress somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Who do you think designed the Soviet nukes?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Institute_of_Physics_and_Technology

The Ukrainian Institute of Physics and Technology was the "Laboratory no. 1" for nuclear physics, and was responsible for the first conceptual development of a nuclear bomb in the USSR.[3]: 4 

Russians are inbred drunk morons, which is why everything they tried since the fall has been disastrous, and why we haven't seen su-57s and t-14s in actual combat while the semhat exploded on the pad and their own bombs rained on their soil.

If the war goes on expect them to nuke Moscow by mistake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Considering how the world's biggest uranium producer by far is Kazakhstan and Russia seems to be actively determined to tank Russian-Kazakh relations, I'm pretty sure they could acquire some

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It can’t be saber rattling at this stage, it’s a promise.

Maybe one that cannot be kept, but I seriously doubt the allies could stop it if the fronts retract and troops from nato countries are not sent?

[–] verity_kindle 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe the support is not worth losing the war. In "The King and I", the King of Siam has a verse "...If allies are weak, am I not best alone? ...If allies are strong with power to protect me, might they not protect me out of all I own?"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

nuclear is neither about having, nor using the weapons … it’s about the fear of future use of weapons

silence isn’t helpful in that endeavour

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They only need to get rid of one little coward hiding in his bunker - Putin. It would be a whole different story if he was on the front actually fighting because so many Russians die there.

[–] verity_kindle 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wish, but he has lots of people to succeed him, who also piss and shit all over other people's stuff. Can you imagine a female version of Putin? There is one- Maria Belovna, IIRC her name. She is the kamehameha beyotch in charge of stealing children from Ukraine and putting them in "education" camps. Unfortunately she is in her maximum Cartman's Mom years. Not old, not young. I think she, even though a civilian, should be moved up the list for wet work, treated just like a Russian military officer and charged with war crimes in absentia. Car ignition go pop.

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[–] assaultpotato 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man I thought this was a solid "thanks Obama" use given his weak defense of Crimea brought us directly to this point. Damn.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For real, it was imo the most categorically awful geopolitical play he (and Merkel, to boot) made while in office. Like, Neville Chamberlain-grade awful.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Shit, Ukraine should get both nukes and NATO membership.

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