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Although Irvine police said they won’t use the Cybertruck as a patrol car, the police department didn’t rule out other uses should the need arise.

A police department in Southern California says it has the country’s first Tesla Cybertruck for police use, but the unusual vehicle won’t see much action. 

The Irvine Police Department unveiled the purchase Tuesday in a splashy video on social media, including Facebook and X. The price tag: $153,175.03, including the installation of emergency equipment. 

The police department said its Cybertruck would have a limited role: jazzing up anti-drug events at schools through the Drug Abuse Resistance Education (D.A.R.E.) program.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I remember in the late 90s the cops in my large city caught flack for buying SUVs in a city with no offroading and zero hills. They gave the same reason. Now all the squad cars are SUVs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Are car manufacturers actually making cars anymore? Seems they all shifted to SUVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Other uses like what...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

They just make themselves look like such dweebs with that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago

What better anti-drug messaging than a vehicle designed by a ketamine fuelled manchild.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like how they're trying to encourage people to say no to drugs with an expensive vehicle from a company headed by a notorious drug abuser.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Say no to drugs or you will approve of shit like this "car"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

The only way that makes any sense.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Maybe just... Defunding the police just a liiiiitle bit wouldn't be so bad...

Im joking btw dont hurt me or argue at me ;-;

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Because this viewpoint exists I died to crime.

Thanks a lot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Wait but thats illegal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You know you're on Lemmy, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Hahah, people don't see it right away. Here you'll get trashed for not saying it with your chest. Honestly, I'm happier than a pig in a donut shop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

We can recognize that lowering their funding won’t get rid of their unnecessary expenses

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They do need to defund them if they are paying for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Police also shouldn't be out for 5150s but here we are. At least suicide by cop is easy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Huh. I came specifically to say "Defund. Them."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing would drive me to drugs faster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless you need to go through sand to get to the drugs, or it's raining.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Or your deal is in a carwash....or you have to off road. Ors it's too cold...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shoulda used that money for a one-off Anti School Drug Event.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Could've used the money for supplies and lunches for the kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Did it work though? Would be fine for an investment if it actually worked...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Screw Elon. Stop spending tax money to support his endeavors.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 2 days ago (3 children)

DARE is still happening places?

That shit causes insane levels of damage...

We had it in elementary schools and they said everything would kill you and was equally bad. So when a few kids started smoking weed in middle school. We expected their lives to be over. A few years later they were fine so everyone started smoking, then kids quickly moved onto coke, opioids and pretty much everything else.

Because they lied about some stuff, most kids assumed they lied about everything.

The cybertruck is obviously fucked, but it's insane anywhere in the country is still grasping to a program we know hasn't worked for decades

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's crazy how expensive it is too. At my HS, as an ASB rep got contacted by DARE reps once and they where oh its only $15k per classroom. It all made sense when I started to learn its always been a money grubbing grift. It never had a good reason to exist other then excuse to charge alot for busybwork.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Of course it would fucking be Irvine and of course it would be the provenly-inedfective D.A.R.E. folks.

For you non Californians, Irvine is a corporation that bought up land and made a "utopian" suburban city. I went to grad school there. It's the kind of place you get pulled over for having long hair (as I can attest to).

Edit with a joke: People from Irvine be all like "Who is John Galt".

[–] kboy101222 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

For everyone's reference, D.A.R.E (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) was not only ineffective, they were anti-effective. Their presence and total demonization of weed not only didn't reduce drug usage rates, they frequently increased the rates.

They've been known to be ineffective since at least 2004: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/

DARE is a wild program. They finally admitted defeat to drugs and have switched to suicide prevention. The kids that do petitions for them, at least around me, are militant. I had one follow me into a restaurant to keep pestering me. Didn't stop until I told the children to kindly fuck off already

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

the kid i bought weed from in high school wore his dare hoodie to school because he thought it was funny. he was right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that was my experience. All those stories made me more curious about drugs than anything else even back in elementary school. Also, having people that used to have addiction problems come in to talk about them showed that you could get through them.

Also didn't really help that the one guy's description of things going wrong for him was basically a bus ride with a hangover where he needed to puke out the window. And that he still did it after that, implying that there was something good about it.

It wasn't DARE exactly but some Canadian equivalent. I hadn't really thought about drugs that much before that and didn't shy away when I had an opportunity to try weed a few years later (thought it was interesting but not worth the money at the time).

Also it only took taking psychedelics a few times to figure out the real problem authority has with them: they can help you break down your preconceived notions and see through the leaps of "logic" that the current system depends on.

Like the first time I did mushrooms, I realized that authority figures (like doctors, police, etc) were just people like you or me and included people having bad days, people not focused on the current task, people who cheated their way through school or got to where they were via corruption, people who think they understand something better than they really do or base their knowledge on outdated information, trolls and bullies, as well as people trying their best in good faith.

It was so obvious in hindsight, but I realized that up until then I had this implicit trust that even if there were times I didn't fully agree with them, they were generally "different" in a "better" kind of way instead of a spectrum of the same kind of people you went to high school with, just with a selection process that is supposed to filter some out (with varying degrees of success).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Same experience here.

While in elementary school, the DARE guy told us that drugs just make you dizzy, like when you spin in circles. He told us to just go run around and we'd feel the same. I thought that sounded awesome! All the good feelings of exercise without the exercise. Fuck yeah!

DARE turned little me into a proto druggie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Chappelles Show did a bit with Tyrone Biggums where he basically tells kids what the drugs look like, what the street names are, and how to cop. Basically my experience with DARE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The kids that did petitions in my experience seemed to have a chip on their shoulder to impress authority or they were related to a cop. Also, there would be prizes like a PSP or an iPod touch. Higher value stuff than any other fundraiser in the school.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

D.A.R.E. taught me that random people will force me to take drugs. Still waiting on that one. We did learn you can get high from sniffing glue though.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how much education could have been done with $150 000. Like imagine if you use that money to actually teach people about responsible drug use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Or just early childhood general education and intervention. You could hire 2-3 teachers with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Just say no!

Ha ha!

[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 days ago (3 children)

@MicroWave "So remember, kids -- drugs'll make you do really weird stuff, like pay $153,000 for a Cybertruck."

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

"For over three decades, our DARE officers have driven attention-grabbing and one-of-a-kind vehicles that never fail to turn heads and excite students,” the department said on Facebook.

How many of those excited students were stopped from using drugs by these attention-grabbing one-of-a-kind vehicles? An exact number isn't necessary, I'll accept an educated approximation.

Also-

And she said the department needed a new D.A.R.E. vehicle anyway.

I may be showing my age here, but back when I was a kid, Officer Friendly used to come to my school and tell us how drugs did not make you cool in his regular old patrol car.

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[–] Lucidlethargy 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Geico won't insure it. If others follow, then it'll be illegal to drive in California, since insurance is mandatory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Geico still very much insures Cybertrucks. The article you're referencing was pure heresay and didn't include any actual statement from Geico.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@Lucidlethargy The rumor that GEICO won't insure Cybertrucks has been debunked by GEICO itself.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/geico-tesla-cybertruck-coverage/

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cops are a parody of themselves.

Didn’t they see the episode of Reno 911 where they bought a Hummvee for “community outreach “?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

didn't rule out other uses

  • Paper weight
  • Accidental jail cell
  • Battery ram (see what I did there? Hold for applause)
  • Means to explore young citizens' limited value
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

At $150k, I'd say it's a 6-digit amputator

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Do they still give out D.A.R.E. shirts? Those things made you the king of the party when the bong was being passed around in high school.

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[–] DaCrazyJamez 22 points 2 days ago

"Hey kids, this is what cars look like when you're on drugs. Do you really want THAT?"

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