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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh wow it was literally just a cat 4 like a couple hour ago.

So this is now one of the fastest developing storms ever now and it hasn't even gotten moving. And halved the time needed for "rapid development" as a tag.

We are gonna need some new terms for these mega hurricanes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

According to WaPo it is literally the fastest developing storm in recorded history. The second fastest was Beryl, and Helene was also in the top ten. The entire top ten is occupied by hurricanes from 2021 on.

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[–] spyd3r 8 points 3 days ago

Someone needs to upgrade it's cable runs, it's throughput is being limited.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's not climate change. There is no mention of climate change anywhere in Florida law.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It was a pleasant surprise to hear the Meterologist on the video in that article specifically explain warming oceans from carbon are causing the increased frequency/intensity.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This happened in 2005 as well, except with 3 hurricanes; Francis, Ivan, and Jeanne. I doubt climate change has gotten better since then.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's gotten WAY better. There is no longer any mention of climate change in Florida law. Ron DeathSentence solved climate change

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

Yup, just like cheeto in chief said. Stop testing and the cases go down!

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 5 days ago (31 children)

Saw an article yesterday interviewing a couple who says they’ll now have to rebuild their beachfront house for the third time, and that their second rebuild wasn’t even finished when Helene sent their house surfing down the street. That their insurance won’t cover it.

I’m flabbergasted that anyone would even consider rebuilding there. You’re lucky to even have insurance – most insurance companies have been fleeing the state.

Here’s a radical idea: don’t rebuild there. This is only going to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I built it all the same! Just to show em!

It sank into the swamp...

So, I built a second one! That sank into the swamp...

So I built a third one! That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp!

But the fourth one stayed up!

Same mentality...

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (24 children)

Huston is one of the most populated cities in the US and it’s built on a swamp. Everyone acts super surprised when it floods semi-annually, like it’s some kind of tragedy as opposed to basic physics.

Next thing you know Arizona will start complaining that they’ve run out of water. I mean, yes? You’re in the desert. Your choices were to fix the climate, move, or die. Instead you’ve built a gigantic parking lot of a city.

There should be no aid whatsoever for natural disasters that strike predictably on a regular basis. Human beings aren’t dumb animals. We can communicate. Also Florida, Louisiana, and Texas literally voted for global warming. They got what they voted for so what is the issue?

Actions have consequences. We failed to act for a century. That’s how long we’ve known with absolute certainty that the climate was fucked. We put people on the moon, and we went to war with Iraq, but heaven forbid people stop eating meat, driving their precious cars, or taking pleasure cruises. Zero. Pity.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Arizona will start complaining that they’ve run out of water

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/27/arizona-scottsdale-water-cut-off-rio-verde-foothills-drought

Little community refused to connect to the public utility grid. Wanted to live the libertarian, no government, get eaten by bears ideal. Local government they were mooching off for water said "Hey, we actually need this for our community. No more mooching." They could fix the problem by incorporating, but instead they went to the news media.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was just driving around the beaches of Pinellas County (Tampa Bay area) today. Entire neighborhoods are destroyed. Beach front condos, restaurants and stores, also destroyed. In many areas, anything ground level got flooded/wrecked by storm surge. I saw several boats in places there are not supposed to be boats.

If Tampa Bay takes a direct hit right now it's going to be really fuckin bad for a lot of people.

What's also scary is that right now everyone has been piling up debris, ruined appliances and all manor of belongings outside for disposal. Piles ten feet high along every street. All this shit is about to be flying around in hurricane force winds and storm surge. Is a recipe for disaster.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (28 children)

Or more to the point. If you have the money to build a beachfront house, why are you not building it to be virtually indestructible? Like one of those indestructible monolithic dome homes.

We can build concrete structures that will laugh at hurricanes. We can build them with their living areas raised well above the ground so water can simply flow underneath and around them. Sure, it's more expensive to build this way, but it can be done. And really, I would argue that if you can't afford to build such a home, you simply cannot afford to live right on the beach.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I live on a 29' cruising sailboat and I'm in SFla and I moved into a mangrove swamp / waterway last night to ride out in, same one that I just left for the last storm a week ago.

It's been 10 days since the last storm that we saw 45+ knt winds in, and for 5 out of the last 10 days, at least here, it's been raining and everything is WAY over-saturated.

This storm is going to seriously fuck some shit up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Yo this guy is awesome, whole ass sailor

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (16 children)

I know this isn't a great thing to say due to housing costs, but I think you really need to find a different place to live than a boat because hurricanes are only going to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (12 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As I understand it, mangrove swamps are a great place to ride out storms in a boat. They naturally reduce waves, and should help cut down on some of the wind. There’s a whole demonstration of how they work in the Keys. Can’t remember where I saw it.

Obviously it would be better to not be in the path of the storm, but if you have to be, there are much worse places than around mangroves.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (4 children)

FWIW, The Weather Channel says something slightly different:

M​ost of the new computer guidance suggests that a Category 3 hurricane will develop, though some models have a stronger storm than this. Residents should prepare as if a Category 4 or 5 hurricane is anticipated.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2024-10-06-milton-major-hurricane-threat-florida-gulf-coast

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Maybe if they stopped voting for fucking Republicans and start fixing the climate they wouldn't be all kinds of fucked as climate change causes insurance companies to say fuck these southern states.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

Im from Florida and it's so frustrating that we are always just 1 or 2 percent away from voting out these morons but we all have to suffer because the old people vote their shriveled asses off.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

So, to take a page from their book....their God must be hella mad at them for the decisions they made and actions they have taken.........OR, tHe LibZ ConTrOL thE WeaThEr!

We may never know.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Originally they thought that Helene would be a cat 3, too.

But the Democrats aim with the Hurricane machine proclaimed by MTG is getting better. Maybe the third try actually turns Mar-a-Lago into a pile of rubble.

[–] TheRealLinga 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm on the team running the weather machine this time. We are very excited for this run!

After gathering so much data from the last several storms, we finally have the power to call hurricanes and tornadoes exactly where we want them to go!

We'll be feasting on the fetuses Boden personally hands us after this run, fellas!

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 days ago (1 children)

as if you didn't have enough reasons to get the fuck out of florida already. leaving that shithole state was the best thing i've ever done, not just for my mental health, but apparently physical safety also

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

My moving date was literally scheduled for this upcoming Friday… I pick up the u-haul on Tuesday, and my lease in Colorado starts on Tuesday of next week. This thing is trying to keep me here in hell.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (37 children)

Shit, it’s headed right for where I live.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

It’s a cycle, as republicans are fond of saying. I mean… this was all sea floor once.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Climate change is a bitch, huh, Republicans who've spent thirty years denying it? (My heart goes out to all the people in the southeast who actually didn't spend decades denying its existence and hampering efforts to slow it.)

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Wow that GOP rep that said democrats created the hurricane is going to have to start working overtime to sell the argument again. At some point the people in the red states must start to wonder why it’s so coincidental that the predictions from the left (science) keep coming true.

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