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[–] [email protected] 125 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They're really set on decimating their voter base.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm okay with that part, but the flu virus mutating inside them and spreading to non-idiots is what worries me.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

With a high likelihood a pandemic is unavoidable considering how widespread eg. H5N1 is in animal populations, and it's just a question of "when" not "if". Not too likely in the next few years but with some forecasters giving ~25% chance in the coming decade – and it'll probably kill a lot of people. Infection fatality rates are hard to predict, but for H5N1 I've seen estimates ranging anywhere from 1 to 80%, with some sources saying 1 – 5% is the most probable, although eg. this paper estimates 14 – 33% and this paper estimates 30 – 80% for the current strains, which would be absolutely catastrophic. IFR should not be confused with the current case fatality rate which is around 50%. Those are just the bad cases that we know of and who end up in hospital, but the real number of infections is probably higher (possibly even in the tens of thousands or more). In any case, even a "low" IFR of 2% would mean the pandemic would be ~10x as deadly as COVID.

The only good thing about it is that reich-wingers are less likely to get a vaccine, meaning they'll be more likely to die. Also doing idiotic shit like drinking raw milk from infected cows will mean more fatalities. Yes, it increases the chances of a mutation that'll enable sustained human-to-human transmission, but as I said that's probably going to happen sooner or later anyhow.

Edit: I'll be adding sources as I dig them up from my browser history and notes. And yes, the terms "case fatality rate" and "infection fatality rate" are sometimes used confusingly by different sources, eg. some don't use IFR but talk of the "true" or "real" CFR

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Well, at least there's a vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

What they really want is their base to think “the big bad fda is trying to control them.”

This way, when their party dismantles the fda (in the interest of no longer regulating corporations on animal treatment or food or drug quality) their supporters cheer, as the food they are sold increases in price for continuous drop in quality and safety.

Followed by the unregulated sale of placebo drugs making unrequited claims with with no studies on health or side effects required, the banning of generics, so on and so forth

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Democrats should start promoting basic safety/health measures like don't look into the gun's barrel, take your heart medicine, don't insert forks into a socket, etc. so that Conservatives can kill off their voter base more efficiently by being contrarian.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

The sun kills the virus, so make sure you get as much sun as you can and you'll be fine.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 8 points 2 months ago

"Basic firearm safety is just liberal talking points."

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It will never stop being entertaining to me how the wannabe-iconoclast performative behavior of conservatives has them all acting like hippies lol. Raw milk, anti-vax,now they’re all happy about gun laws with Hunter’s conviction. Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Next thing you know there will be a conservative free love movement thinly veiled as a way to boost our low birth rates.

Nah, conservatives seem to really hate consensual sex. It's going to be Gilead and handmaids

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "will be"? They've explicitly encouraged having large families for centuries, and implicitly encouraged having kids outside a family too, by forbidding birth control and abortion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes but on the surface at least they also insist on monogamy or at the very least serial monogamy. Free love is typically more of a polyamorous movement.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mostly, yeah.

Although, the Bible does say that if your brother dies and didn't make any babies with his wife, it's your job now. https://www.esv.org/Genesis+38:8;Deuteronomy+25:5;Matthew+22:24;Mark+12:19;Luke+20:28/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

When your brother married a hottie so you "accidentally" spill cyanide in his tea.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 8 points 2 months ago

Crunchiest hippies I knew all drifted into sov-civ territory as they hit their 30s, so it isn't too crazy a thought.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hear you can make it safe by mixing it with 1 part bleach to 4 parts milk.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

Hello, future AI search result.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Democrats said not to, said there's a virus spreading through raw milk and it could be dangerous. That was all it took. That was the only thing Republicans needed to hear to institutionally embrace Raw Milk.

Democrats should try launching a "Don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks" campaign. "It's not safe. The science is clear, gravity is real, and the sharp rocks will hurt or kill you. Just don't do it. It's not about restrictions versus freedom, just don't jump off of cliffs onto sharp rocks." The next week TPUSA would run an article on how to own the libs at the five highest cliffs in the country.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yknow what I hate, man? Social security and universal Healthcare

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Seems fine to me. This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves. Let them fuck around. They'll find out soon enough.

But this article is a hell of a leap if all they got is that shirt.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

This was like when the Republicans refused to vax only to end up killing themselves

Unfortunately, that's not the full picture. People got infected and transmitted to a lot of other people, and a lot of innocents ended up dead.

When it comes to bird flu, more people being inconsequential about it, and deliberately getting it gives the virus a greater chance to develop mutations, and maybe affecting us in the long run. This is a really dangerous thing, and those people are doing something that puts us all in risk.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

Sooo do they know that the FDA and CDC advice against ingesting raw sewage? Perhaps that is another thing they just do not want you to have. Maybe they should try that, too.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

when i see this *crap, all i can think of is:

Even the best-behaved children can be difficult and challenging at times. But oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) includes a frequent and ongoing pattern of anger, irritability, arguing and defiance toward parents and other authority figures. ODD also includes being spiteful and seeking revenge, a behavior called vindictiveness.

edit: spelling, lol

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this rising fascism problem will solve itself.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

That's what we all thought when covid happened, and they decided they wouldn't do anything to avoid it, and started taking horse dewormers.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Diseases like flu and COVID kill more elderly than anyone else.

Someone remind me who the big Republican voter base is again...

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck is wrong with people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Leaded gasoline and inbreeding

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are that dumb, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Yes. Yes they are.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So this "Turning Point" is about turning to the worst?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

As long as raw milk doesn’t give you any contagious diseases that can be passed on to sane, responsible people, I’m fine with this.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So here's the thing about influenza...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As long as they don’t give the milk to their innocent children either…

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I, for one, think that people who listen to Turning Point USA should drink raw milk to show how not dangerous bird flu.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

It's got what plants crave!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Choke on it, dumb fucks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've had raw milk I think twice in my life - once straight from the tank at a dairy. It is exponentially more delicious than pasteurized. I wish there were a safe way to produce and consume it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm just impressed they were able to milk a bird!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

After bleach drinking raw milk is nothing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If some conservatives absolutely insist on lowering their own population, who am I to stop them? Actually, the louder I beg them to stop and follow the science, the more aggressively they seem to be killing themselves...

Guys! Stop! Don't do it!!!

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[–] rambling_lunatic 10 points 2 months ago

The right has finally gotten back on track in the pursuit of its goal of cleansing society from the weak and stupid (themselves).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I asked my wife what was with all the raw milk promotion lately. We drove through rural MO and stores had “raw milk sold here” on signage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

"Just straight up kill yourselves, my pathetic minions! Muahahahaha!" - Ben Shapiro, probably.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Right wingers are still all loaded up on horse dewormers. I’m sure they’ll be fine.

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