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California won't prosecute LAPD officer who shot teenage girl in store's dressing room (calmatters.org)
submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The California Justice Department announced today that it has found no cause to file chargesagainst a Los Angeles police officer who, while aiming at a suspect, shot and killed a 14-year-old girl hiding in a department store fitting room. 

Fourteen-year-old Valentina Orellana Peralta was picking out a quinceanera dress with her mother just before Christmas in 2021. She was shot and killed by a bullet that ricocheted off the floor.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So far, sentiment seems very understanding of the tough situation and a call that had unforeseen circumstances.

Except, oh wait, it’s all bullshit passive voice copaganda.

From the literal article:

Los Angeles officer Jordan Head had a 40-millimeter bean bag gun, but before he could aim it at the suspect, Jones fired his AR-15 three times.

Head “did not discharge the 40-millimeter launcher because, before he could aim, rounds were fired, and the suspect fell to the ground and was no longer an immediate threat,” according to the Justice Department analysis of the shooting.

Officer Michael Mazur, who assumed command of the scene on arrival, told Jones to “slow down” multiple times, and at some point later told Head “It’s f—– up.  We tried to slow it down.”

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How does someone come to a point where police going around with an AR-15 is even legal, much less common?

What kind of large field ops with trained & organised counterparty are they expecting to encounter on a daily basis outside of an active warzone? And in a store?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All it took was two dudes in body armor robbing a bank for every cop in America to shit their pants in fear. They're so afraid of being helpless again that they went and bought fucking tanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Technically it was two.

The one heat was based on in California and the college tower sniper a few years later.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (4 children)

How does someone come to a point where police going around with an AR-15 is even legal, much less common?

I've only seen this once in my life, when I was visiting Paris, and the cops were casually lounging around with rifles.

In America, generally a cop will carry a pistol, and keep rifles or shotguns in their car (in the trunk).

[–] loutr 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure they were cops? We've had soldiers patrolling on and off since the terrorist attacks, and I don't think French cops carry anything other than handguns during their normal shift.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that's possible. I tend to instinctively assume American rules wherever I go since they're what I know, and we virtually never deploy our military domestically, so I wouldn't have thought to try to distinguish cops from the military.

[–] activ8r 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

we virtually never deploy our military domestically

Doesn't sound like you'd need to if the cops are running around with that kind of fire power in their cars.

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[–] Corkyskog 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I went to London which now feels like over two decades ago and was told they only have batons... Like 7 out of 10 cops had MP5s strapped casually to the side of them. Looking back I am like maybe 9/11 response? But that's still like a couple years after. I don't know, coming from the US I thought that was crazy. Some of our cops have shotguns usually, and in some towns, rifles in their car, and they are almost never used.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Had this same experience when I visited London 20+ years ago. Turns out it was the opening of Parliament that brought out all the MP5s according to the staff at the hotel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, those were special forces (was it after those terrorist attacks?).

I don't know of any country in Europe where caps would keep rifles or shotguns in cars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Paris, like many big European cities, is a major terrorist target. It's been hit numerous times, so they're a bit on edge there. When the alert level is high, you'll see military patrols as well. Although the effectiveness of those is dubious.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As always, ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

plus All Cops Are Incompetent

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (4 children)

  1. Treat every gun as if is loaded

  2. Never point your gun at anything you aren’t willing to destroy

  3. Keep your finger off the trigger and out of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot

  4. Be aware of your target and what’s beyond it

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

  1. The cop was fully aware it was loaded.

  2. The cop was willing to destroy the target.

  3. The cop was ready to shoot immediately.

  4. The cop couldn't give less of a shit what's beyond their target.

You don't know cops very well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You’re missing the point. Anyone who is unable to follow firearm safety should be disqualified from holding a position that will require the use of a firearm.

Your flippant attitude doesn’t help anything. Yes, peace officers seem to have no moral code and are currently a detriment to society. However, resigning them to your point of view is somewhere between pessimistic and harmful. We must be open to changing this system for the betterment of society.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

the problem is the cops don't care and they're not incentivized to care

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

My flippant attitude is based on this article.

I don't disagree that you shouldn't have a gun if you can't follow basic safety protocols. Unfortunately, California (and the rest of America overall) does disagree. Which was my point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you get the point.

You can say things like "Y'all rape is bad" and we can make laws to also say rape is bad but not enforce it on a few people, then shit is fucked up.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You’re missing the point. Anyone who is unable to follow firearm safety should be disqualified from holding a position that will require the use of a firearm.

But thanks to the 2nd Amendment anyone who is unable to follow those rules can have multiple guns

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If only we could get these heavily-armed cops to follow basic firearms safety protocols.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Sounds difficult. Easier to just continue giving them inadequate training and have the city pay out millions of dollars every time a cop wants to kill someone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Never point your gun at anything you aren’t willing to destroy

"Don't point gun at fellow cops, check. Okay, maybe except Ray, because he's just a total softy."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

If those cops could read they would be beating you senseless for resisting arrest.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remind me again why vigilante justice is discouraged in favor of unhinged cops?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because vigilantes won't selectively enforce the laws so that friends of the elites can do whatever the fuck they want.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago

Ah yes. The classic "We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong defence."

Things like these need to be held by an independent team and no info given about those involved, e.g. the shooter was a police officer. Some people keep saying the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The fact the shooter was an officer should have no bearing on the outcome then.

Also, getting an independent team means new jobs for people. Get better results and be a job creator.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

ACAB

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

How is it not negligence? If a citizen did the same thing, they would get charged with negligence.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Deny justice long enough and people will get their own in the worst way possible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Step 1: Take away cops guns. No lethal weapons for cops. Not a SWAT team? No guns.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

The cops show up and kill more people than the suspect. How surprising.

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