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[–] Quexotic 101 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My kids do. They were younger than 4 years old when I explained it to them and they didn't have any trouble understanding. Kind of makes me wonder why so many adults have so much trouble.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Little young for geometry, but you do you I guess

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Quadratics are child abuse!!

[–] kersploosh 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ProstheticBrain 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hold my hypotenuse, I'm going in!

[–] threelonmusketeers 4 points 3 months ago

Hello, future people!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My seven year old explained it to me the other day. Snapped at him half paying attention, thinking he was calling something gay disparagingly. Asked what that word meant to him and he said "when two of the same gender people love each other. Like two boys or two girls." "How do you know that??" "Ms. --social worker at school name-- told me about it" "Oh.. well. Great. Carry on then. Oh! Wait! You know you can love whoever you love right? And Daddy will always love you?" "Yeah of course, can you be quiet so I can watch my show please"

This morning I noticed a black trans lives matter sign on a hallway wall and felt really proud of our school. Fwiw it's one of the lowest income and most diverse schools in our affluent city, debunking "Poors and POC are inherently bigots" bullshit from the academic left.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The academic left? Friend, your kid is well adjusted. More so than you (which is the goal, so good on you)

The academic left doesn't exist. I don't even know what that means, but it's not a real group. It sounds like it came from fox "news"

You're trying. Your kid has been raised to not see the issues we (myself included) get tangled up on. We have to get past the bigotry subtly hammered into us growing up... If you're not pushing our baggage onto the next generation, you're doing great as far as social issues go

No leftist wants anything except for you to be paid more fairly and for your kid's school to be better funded. Doubly so if we're educated enough to recognize systematic issues.

You're on the right side of history... But whatever news programs you've been watching, please stop. They're owned by billionaires actively trying to sow division for their own benefit

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

academic left doesn't exist

The surveys in this Wikipedia article claim otherwise.

Some of those studies are suspect (e.g. most target social sciences, instead of a survey over all disciplines), but there does seem to be evidence that academics tend to lean left. For teachers at K-12 schools, this article cites a study about political bias, which found a smaller but still left leaning gap in political affiliation of teachers.

But the real question is whether that matters.

I grew up in a progressive state with largely progressive teachers and conservative parents. I considered myself conservative for many years (well into college, which was a private, conservative university), until several years after finishing school and I realized I really just wanted smaller, accountable government. Neither major party actually pushed for that, though both pushed for some aspect of what I wanted (Dems pushed for social policies like same sex marriage and legal marijuana, Reps pushed for lower taxes and spending caps).

Did my teachers influence my political views? Absolutely! But they didn't turn me into a progressive, they just gave me an alternative perspective from what I got at home. My most influential teacher was in 4th grade, who pushed hard for recycling and reuse (we has a class compost bin, mild consequences for improper waste disposal, etc). I'm no tree hugger, but I'm really careful about reducing waste. My parents cared about waste a lot too, but my teacher gave the perspective I needed to understand why it was so important (we had a guest speaker talk about aquifers, ground water poisoning, etc, among other things). We rarely talked about politics, but things adjacent to politics certainly did come up.

So I don't particularly care what my kids teachers' political views are, I just expect them to teach facts and help students draw their own conclusions. I personally consider myself a left leaning libertarian (in favor of a solid social safety net, loose social policies, balanced budgets, and low taxes), and that's a mix of my formal education and home life, as well as other interactions with interesting people.

Conservatives make the left-leaning academics thing into a big issue, but it's really not. The real issue is that teachers are underpaid, so we're not attracting a diverse enough set of teachers. My dad wanted to be a teacher (got a teaching degree and taught for a year), but the income wasn't enough so he went back and got a degree in engineering. That's a pretty serious problem, and it's especially bad in my (very conservative) area since most teachers are women who have husbands who have better paying jobs, which implies that teaching isn't a viable career for many. We're limiting our pool to people who are okay with a crappy salary.

That said, it's disingenuous to say that there's no political bias in schools. The studies indicate otherwise. However, it's a mostly unimportant detail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's probably due to the inherent liberal bias of reality, if anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

More a leftist bias, IMO, but even more than that reality has an anti-conservative bias. Conservatives reject reality with ever fiber of their being to maintain their power.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Your comment veered right off a cliff with the last sentence there. Where did you get that jumble of words?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Geometry is a gateway drug to Topology and its lesser known brethren, Bottomology

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

But have you heard of Versology?

[–] Quacksalber 59 points 7 months ago

When they say that kids don't understand gay people, what they mean is "kids don't understand why gays are bad and disgusting".

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is too late mother I have seen everything, I now identify as non-Euclidean.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I would love to see this in the “jimmy noooo” comic format

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I had gay couples explained to me as a kid over twenty years ago and understood it no problem.

Geometry on the other hand, I still struggle with...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you just never approached it from the right angle. I bet if you tried a new approach the subject matter wouldn't be quite as obtuse

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's acute way of putting it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sometimes it helps to look at it from a different angle :)

E: oof I just realized Nova already made this pun lmao

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

what if the shapes were kissing on tv?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"If your child gets turned gay by watching a lil Nas x video just show them the WAP video to turn them straight again. Y'know cause that's how it supposedly works"

I know I butchered the quote but the point is still there

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Straight people - "That means you're gay"

Gay people - "That means you're straight"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 15 points 7 months ago

Horny people - "That means you like sex"

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago

Kids don't even understand straight couples.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They really should stop being so obtuse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Thats a cute pun.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

When I was little, I got to know some of my mother's gay friends.

she just said smth like "they are a couple", and i got it. It's not difficult to teach the existence of gay couples. Unless you teach that couples are specifically man and woman.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

I have gay family, and I didn’t need that explained to me. Even growing up in a very christian household, and being in a church that was conservative for most of my time there. I have never seen anyone argue this in good faith, and I don’t think it’s possible to argue this in good faith.

[–] Meowoem 14 points 7 months ago

I don't really understand gay couples either, I don't even understand gay people singularly. I think I understood them better as a child to be honest, like oh look two men are in a relationship that's nice for them. Now I see a lot more detail and it starts getting confusing, like when you see two handsome guys just hanging out in a coffee bar holding hands. Where did they meet? It sure as fuck wasn't on Grindr! And how can they just walk around being hot and sexy all day! Why aren't they exhausted by the pure pressure of existence?!

But yeah you don't need to understand, no one understands anything anyway it's far harder to understand why two men shouldn't be allowed to love each other. Can anyone ever actually explain that without evoking a whole big fantasy about a powerful wizard that said it's naughty?

I think that's what they actually mean, it's really hard to convince a kid that two guys shouldn't be allowed to be happy together especially when you can just look over and see two perfectly happy guys in nice clothes who look like they've stopped for lunch before going and bring really good at some racket based sport after which they're going to a movie and sitting with their arms around each other... Strong arms from the racket sport, a slight hint of perspiration even after their shower together...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Maybe they wouldn't have trouble understanding it if they weren't constantly told all their life that men need to love women and women need to love men 🤣

What makes it confusing is when it contradicts everything they've been taught their whole life. Don't fill their heads with that shit and they will handle it perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

They taught me how to find the area of a trapezoid and I've been broken ever since. Maybe sucking dick will fix me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

If you have a hard time understanding gay couples, then you must be overthinking straight couples.

Unless your gonna talk about babies there is no difference and if they can understand babies, then they sure as heck understand gay couples.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I understood my (much older) brother's best friend and his boyfriend were gay when I was 6 years old. It took about 10 seconds for my parents to explain the concept.

I never figured out geometry beyond Pi*r^2.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SleepyHarry 3 points 7 months ago

Acutely witty.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This only gets funnier if you imagine kids figuring out that Trig and Geometry are from Ancient Greece of all places.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whats so hard in saying: "some boys love other boys instead of girls"

[–] SleepyHarry 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well because that hasn't taught me anything about geometry.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

As a kid, my mom explained that sometimes two men or two women fall in love too, the same as if it were a man and a woman, and that's all I needed to understand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can confirm it is harder… I don't know why people (not homosexuals just certain people) love eachother but I do know trigonometry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

that's because trig is easy. finding and keeping love is harder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I thought from the headline this was going to be a sovereign citizen post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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