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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I already answered it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

You'll notice that the government did far more of the killing than the Communist revolutionaries. And, like I said, metrics are improving since overthrowing the previous regime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I'll just copy and paste my earlier explanation, hope it makes sense for you this time:

Participation in bourgeois elections is to delegitimize the system (such as pointing out Dem/Rep collusion to kick them off the balot in Georgia), and advertise their platform.

Marxists believe revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I just don't understand why we can't start the exact same revolution these people want during the primaries.

Are you suggesting a revolution is done within the bounds of the electoral system?

It would make much more sense to win over/capture the party and then push that platform in the general

  1. You can't "capture" or "win over" parties like that, the electoral system is a filter.

  2. You can't change a party's platform in the general with some grand prayer or anything, they will do what they need to to satisfy their donors.

You get real power to get actual shit done

No, you don't.

If someone can make the "revolution is necessary" argument, that should be a perfectly acceptable plan. I think they just want complete collapse so they can try and rebuild, which is complete psychopathic nonsense.

You're right, that is nonsense, please read leftist theory and talk to actual leftists. Nobody wants to rebuild from collapse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

You'd have to be a bit silly to think the Tsarist regime was better for Russia, the nationalist Kuomintang for China, the fascist slaver Batista for Cuba, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

Historically, Marxist revolutions have dramatically improved conditions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Which part of "revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham" was difficult for you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The answer is capitalist decay. Fascism isn't going away even if Trump goes away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (11 children)

So no, you aren't familiar with the Marxist stance on Electoralism. For reference, they are Marxists.

No, they do not need to win the election to end Capitalism. Participation in bourgeois elections is to delegitimize the system (such as pointing out Dem/Rep collusion to kick them off the balot in Georgia), and advertise their platform.

Marxists believe revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (13 children)

Do you think they are running because they expect to win? Are you familiar at all with the Marxist view of Electoralism?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I never said voting props up the electoral system, I said voting for Democrats or Republicans props it up. Drag is arguing against ghosts.

 

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