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[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For those of us living after the 19th century 55 degrees is the amount of time to start killing pathogens, 60 ℃ needed to take 35 minutes, down to 14 minutes at 63 ℃, 66 ℃ is 5 min, 69 ℃ is 1 min, 72 ℃ is just half a minute, and 74 ℃ is instantaneous.

Probably worth adding that just putting a piece of chicken in the oven at 100 ℃ is obviously not going to kill all bacteria. It takes time for the heat to be transferred from the oven to the room-temperature (or colder) internals of the chicken.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read this to mean the temperature using a meat thermometer, poking it in the thickest part.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah exactly, that would be correct. The need to do something like that was what I was trying to point to.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind that this graph shows core temperature. It is obvious to most but it should be written down.

Don't want someone with little to no cooking experience look at this chart and put his huge turkey for a couple of seconds in the oven at 165°F / 74°C 😅

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What is that in a normal unit?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

74.00C for 0.0 metric minutes

71.11C for 0.5 metric minute

68.33C for 1.0 metric minute

65.55C for 5.0 metric minutes

62.77C for 14.0 metric minutes

60.00C for 35.0 metric minutes

~58.33C for 82.0 metric minutes

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Real talk, “pasteurize” is the stupidest most misaligned word that could have possibly been used for the process of sterilizing via heat.

[–] jws_shadotak 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

It's named after the inventor of the process though. Heat things to kill bacteria.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Oh that makes sense

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Oh that makes sense

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It should be "Pasteurize", as it's named after Louis Pasteur. And the specific process he invented dramatically increases the shelf life of milk using very high temperatures for a very short time.... Without changing the milk texture or cooking it very much.

So pasteurization is a process that sterilises did with heat. But I don't think it works on meat.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Really? Why?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Pasteurized products are not sterile.

Sterilization should only be used to describe processes that leave no living microorganisms or fruitable spores behind.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm a poultrologist, and you should all be aware that this kills the chicken.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then you have poultrygeists

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another EGG?! Where the FUCK do these keep coming from?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a poultronomist and it's fine. The chicken is comfortable throughout the procedure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'm a poultroglodyte, and you should know that my carved stone pen is very pretty

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Can someone translate from freedom into logical

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

soooo what you're saying, is that if I fly my turkey into the sun it will be pausterized in 3^n-36 milliseconds?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm finding the way the points and the y-axis are lining up to be, dare I say, mildly infuriating. Why is 82 at 70? Why is 0 not at 0?

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[–] Sadrockman 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So how hard do I need to slap it to get it to that temp internally?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not that hard you just have to do it 135000 times.

https://youtu.be/LHFhnnTWMgI

[–] Sadrockman 3 points 10 months ago

Guess I need to start limberin up my slapping arm,then

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Chances are there wouldn't be any internals with a slap like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

But how many ounces per stone in a tenday is that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do not eat chicken but thank you for this information!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do eat chicken, but thanks for your information!

[–] Socsa 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do eat information, but thank you for this chicken

[–] BigFatNips 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do thank chickens, but eat you for this information.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I do information thanks, but chicken you for this eat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Thank you for thanking me for my thankfulness!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Life hack: if you don't eat meat you don't need to worry about meatborne illnesses.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep, then all you have to worry about is non-meatborne illnesses.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Until it gets on your salad

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

so the bird needs to hit that temp before the clock starts, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, the center of the meat

[–] Sadrockman 2 points 10 months ago

Not with that attitude

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Not very helpful for real world cooking.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, one could probably deduce that a lower internal temperature than the instant point is sufficient to cook chicken, and use that in combination with a thermometer when cooking chicken.

In fact, that's what I've done after learning this, bringing my chicken breasts only up to ~68 C (~155 F), resulting in a vastly more enjoyable chicken breast.

So I'd argue the opposite - this is very helpful for real world cooking.

[–] Patches 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes it's a lot more helpful to know that if my bird sits on the grill at 155 for a minute - I can eat it. Is way more useful than knowing I need to crank it, and dry it out to get to a mythical 165.

I've had the jump from 160 to 165 take 3 minutes for whatever reason. It was already done in 30 seconds! That's nice to know

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You can pull it off the grill as soon as it hits 155. Residual heat from the outside of the chicken will distribute through the middle, the final temp in the middle will be closer to 160 and itll be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Actually super useful if you don’t like dry chicken but don’t want people getting sick. Even roasting in the oven. Better for beef honestly but, point still stands.

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[–] its_the_new_style 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You can do it simply with a Sous Vide. However chicken cooked at low temp, while safe to eat, is texturally unappealing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I can confirm this. I tried to do a low and slow with chicken breast once and it was not good.

I still prefer mine at about 150 F, but anything much below that feels like eating warm raw chicken.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's very helpful. You can cook chicken with sous vide (hot water with temperature held very precise) and cook the chicken at 140 35min. Because it's a bath of precisely controlled water the temperature will never go above 140 and you will have insanely juicy chicken that is still safe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Actually really helpful. Just today I served the dopest grilled chix breast because I pulled it when the temp was at 155 and rested it a minute let the carryover heat finish cooking it. Could have probably gotten away w 150. It was fall apart tender and super juicy because I didn't hammer it to death.

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