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[–] MrScottyTay 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

At its most basic it's water vapour. You know the one thing you're not supposed to get in your lungs... water. And you can't exactly trust what certain research shows, it's too early in the lifespan of vaping to truly know it's ramifications. Cigarettes used to have research having then saying they were good for you.

At the end of the day though, what's the fucking point of vaping other than to be another addictive substance for those on the bottom to be beholden to, like an addict tax keeping their take home income as low as possible. It's just not something the world needs, so why defend it? Have you got the addict equivalent of buyers bias or something?

Edit: okay I'll concede on the water vapour thing. Still don't want chemicals in my lungs past that though.

Also to say something else on vapes... I'm fine with it being a stepping stone to get people off cigarettes. The only issue with that is that it's much more accessible to puff on a vape at any point in the day (as long as it has charge) too the point where someone might actually end up using it way more and at a more concentrated level than what they'd do with cigarettes. It's not great.

[–] funkless_eck 14 points 1 year ago

I dont know if water is the one thing I shouldn't get in my lungs

take pudding for example

[–] loutr 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not water vapor. It's mainly propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, plus flavorings and (optionally) nicotine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care if people defend vaping, they're the ones damaging their bodies, not me.

I do think it needs to be more regulated, in terms of where you can and can't vape. Just like I don't want to breath in second hand smoke, I don't want to breath in your vape

[–] MrScottyTay 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah waiting in queues and walking behind people that value is fucking awful. Especially when they're trying to cosplay as Thomas the tank engine.

[–] sanpedropeddler 10 points 1 year ago

Its not water vapor, nor is it dangerous to inhale water vapor. Vaping is not safe, but you don't make a very good argument as to why. The person you're responding too is also partially correct although they are wrong that vaping is completely harmless. People are often led to believe its more harmful that it truly is because health problems relating to black market marijuana cartridges were falsely attributed to normal vapes.

[–] Ookami38 7 points 1 year ago

Neverminding that it's not just water vapor, fog and humidity are also water vapor, and yet we breathe them every day. The substance itself isn't really the issue. Now, it being hot water vapor, at a higher concentration, and carrying more things than just water vapor, you have some points to stand on.

Harm reduction is also a very real thing. Sure , vaping is another thing for people to be addicted to. People are going to be addicted, almost everyone to something. I'd rather myself or anyone right now be addicted to vapes than cigs, because it's LESS harmful, at least according to the current consensus. Of COURSE I'd people just not be addicted but that's a looooong way off. Stepping stones are good things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know the one thing you’re not supposed to get in your lungs… water.

What the fuck lol that's not how anything works

You've never breathed humid air before? That's water vapor

And you can’t exactly trust what certain research shows

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Alright, keep your vapes. I don't want anything to do with them, including second hand

[–] Ookami38 3 points 1 year ago

This is a reasonable take. No one wants to force them on you or anyone else. If someone's vaping and you're breathing it in secondhand, sure they're a problem, and you should probably politely ask them to be respectful, then get reasonably upset when they don't. But let them have their thing otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's fine, I totally respect that. Just please don't ban them for the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There's water vapor in your lungs right now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They are either working for a vape company or so hopelessly addicted they can't admit negatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's actually propylene glycol vapor and vegetable glycerin vapor.