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The virtual school says its hands are tied due to Florida's "don't say gay" law. However, the teacher has lodged a complaint against it.

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[–] [email protected] 219 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

“I was told that professor was not okay, Dr. was not okay for me because I didn’t have a Ph.D., but there are lots of people at FLVS who do use Dr., which, coincidentally, is also in violation of the same law I got disciplined for,” Vary said. They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using "teacher" was also out of the question.“

“We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career. Why? Because we’re bastards. Fuck you.”

Serious question, though: how does one pronounce Mx.?

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teacher should 100% be an option

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Or get rid of these titles altogether, they don't serve much of a purpose and I stopped using them a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it and pronounce it like “Mix”

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There has to be someone with the last name of Tape using this somewhere right.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually hear it as "mix".

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career.

Remembers me of something we've already heard, at least in EU, a couple of years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I keep reading it as Mixter.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

That exactly without the ter

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing says "small government" quite like being fired from your job because of your name.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Small government for rich, white ~~land~~ business owners.

Big brother for everyone else.

[–] Peppycito 14 points 1 year ago

🌏🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Seems like a first amendment violation to me, but then again I’m not a Bible thumping fascist

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also 14th and 19th, plus the Civil Rights Act. A non-corrupt SCOTUS would toss the Florida law immediately, but absent a couple minutes under Warren we have never had one of those.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a first amendment violation to me

Never fear, those "conservatives" who are such responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars will gladly waste them to defend any forthcoming lawsuits.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago

They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using "teacher" was also out of the question.

After being denied Teacher, Professor, or Dr. as the title (the last because they did not have a PhD even though evidently others in the school go by Dr. without a PhD without discipline). And note that "Mr." was apparently not an option?

The school's hands weren't tied. They appear enthusiastic.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t understand trans people because I have never met one because they are the smallest group of people they could find to harass/hate. Which is insanity to me. I can’t overstate how unafraid I am for my children of a dude in a dress reading them “three billy goats gruff “Why the fuck make up monsters when churches exist!?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I had no idea Mx was a thing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Well now you know so if you meet someone using Mx you won't knee jerk fire them.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Also Florida: "Why do we have such a teacher shortage?"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Mx. is a confusing title. How is it pronounced? "X" is an obnoxious letter choice to try to genericize gender.

But the article shows this teacher tried several other reasonable titles, like "professor" and "teacher" that were also denied. That's ridiculous, and clearly just targeting them.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please explain how you'd know how to pronounce Mrs as missus\mizzes without someone explaining it? It's no more confusing than that archaic bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They're abbreviations for master and mistress. Of course those are archaic etymologies, but that's how they evolved into abbreviations.

The strange thing is that Mx is an abbreviation that doesn't have a basis in a word as far as I know. It's literally conforming to those heteronormative traditions and adapting them with an "X" bandaid.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The point is that the teacher is non binary and forced to choose an honorific. They wanted to use a neologism because there isn't an established term and they were fired because of bigotry. It doesn't really matter if the term makes sense to you or anyone else, it was their choice.

Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness of people who throw a fit about they\them pronouns not being "grammatically correct" when singular they has been in use for ages.

Non binary people exist, and if they are required by their job to use a formal title, they should have one that recognizes who they are.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You not knowing how to pronounce something isn't reason enough for it not to exist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not saying it is, but it should be enough to start a discussion on whether there's a better, more easily pronouncable term while we're in a discussion about titles.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I really think about it, what makes Mr. Or Ms. any easier to pronounce? They are actually a bit less intuitive because they are abbreviations.

As far as two letters go, I feel like Mx. is just one step removed from Mix, so it seems easy to me. Perhaps Mr. and Ms. are just easier to accept because we have lived with them our whole life. A lot of the English language seems weird when we step outside of it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

To me a professor teaches at a college or university but teacher should 100% have been an option.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know it’s too late, but how about “Coach _____”?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

How about basic respect?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I'm not trying to be negative but shouldn't coach be reserved for people who actually coach something? I think teacher should have been available.

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