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[–] [email protected] 125 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Take your money and spend it somewhere else. That’s the only sound corporations can hear.

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[–] Secret300 76 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't understand people. Just don't buy the fucking game then.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You're taking about wow. That's like telling a junkie not to buy their next fix.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Tell me about it. This was a long time ago but I remember one of my friends couldn't even go a day without doing his dailies. He wasn't even interested in WoW anymore, he was playing a bunch of other games. But he absolutely had to login every day just to do his dailies then log out and play the game he actually wanted to play.

This went on for months. When we asked him why, he would just say he didn't want to miss out and fall behind. Bro, you aren't even interested in the game anymore...

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hey, I finally kicked my WoW habit.

I mean I started FFXIV right after, but it's a start!

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[–] AMillionNames 9 points 9 months ago

We need a rehab MMO for them that gets them the same high but is easy to unhook from.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It's already too late. The time for us to shut this shit down was Diablo 4. Now that Blizzard knows their fanbase of rubes will pay extra for a headstart, expect to see this as the norm for all future releases.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm at Disneyland with my family RN and we mainly came because this week was insanely cheap for hotels. My hotel basically touches the convention center and there is almost no one here for blizzcon. It's dying.

The conversations I've overheard are so sad. They all justify simping for blizzard like addicts. So much random misogyny too.

I used to love blizzard games but just the people I've listened to concern me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

It started long before. I remember boycotting d3 when the auction house came out and i stopped wow a decade ago because you are paying monthly for a savegame plus microtransactions.

I can buy way better indie games for that price or keep playing guild wars 2 which has no sub.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I didnt fall for it with diablo 4 this time, all my friends that blasted through it in a week are no longer playing and I can buy it when its $20 if at all.

Tired of anything from Activision blizzard at this point.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

do that with most games. life is bettee that way

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

early??? you fucks are a decade late

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Poor Blizzard, they must be failing on hard times, after being bought for 69 billion dollars

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And yet people will pay it and the cycle continues.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If they didn't stop from abusive micro transactions, half-ass launches, mocking players about mobile phones, overworked devs, a sexist frat boy culture, women leaving over sexual abuse, or a employee who committed suicide (!)... then nothing will.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What I don't get is what made 2023 the year of the cut brakes? Seems like every corporation has decided to just go full fucking tilt on pushing their consumers to the edge of what they're willing to put up with and they have ZERO shame about any of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

High consumer spending keeping the economy afloat against the predicted recession that never materialized. Companies figured they could start charging more and get away with it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Profits going down I guess. People save money when inflation is crazy, and if the company profits go down, their stocks go down also. If that happens, leadership may be replaced etc etc.

Ive cancelled most of my subs because they didn't even provide enough value before the price hikes.

So the people who remain and who are fine with paying YouTube or Netflix, they will have to pay more to support higher profits.

Probably in 2030, people will both pay and watch lots of ads since that gives maximum profits. Pretty much how cable TV went.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

As entire guilds pay up and see it as a matter of clout.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Can't wait for them do do it anyways and all the fans cave in because 'muh social escapism' gamers have some of the weakest spines, the most important point of boycotting g isn't being loud and whiney its to NOT BUY THE PRODUCT FOR FUCKS SAKE.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I’m not defending it, or blizzard, and reading the title sounded yucky

But my quick understanding:

Expansion costs $50

Next level is $70 which comes with digital stuff, mounts, etc

Top tier expansion is $90, which comes with even more stuff

So a $40 difference from base or $20 from mid tier

It also comes with 30 days of game time, so that’s $15

Now we’re looking at $25 difference between base game. Or $5 difference between mid and top tier.

So it’s really like $5 for more digital stuff and early access, right?

It would have been better to just make two tiers. Charge $75 for everything including early access and don’t include game time. Cause subscribers are going to pay for that anyway. I guess because a month of access is hardly worth $15 operationally, it’s a nice way to up charge

I haven’t bought anything wow related in like 8 years. So I don’t have a horse in this fight. The title is just a little click bait (I don’t think anyone thought it’s $90 for only early access, and assume it’s part of a $90 game cost)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Who pre purchases this early? The release date is “on or before December 31, 2024. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh who cares anymore. Blizzard is going to do it, the players are going to lap it up with a smile. Just let it be and move on if it's not for you

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[–] VintageTech 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I 100% understand the need to charge for these services, but how much profit this IP has generated should have secured all funding for future expansions and more economical pricing.

Subs should drop to $5mo with expansions starting off at $20ea. Hell make the "Classic" servers F2P.

I'm gonna make my own mmo, with a TCG and Furries.

[–] mindbleach 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm almost disgusted by the people insisting 'it's expensive, they need the money.'

They've made ten bucks a month, per player, for twenty straight years. Plus the price of a whole new game for every incremental expansion. How much more money does another expansion need?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

Why do mmo's always have the best trailers but the shittiest graphics?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So it's more accessible. You don't need to upgrade your PC regularly to play an MMO.

Beyond that, WoW is very stylized, and it's far from ugly. No, it's not realistic looking, but it is nice looking.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you have checked out WoW lately, but it's actually a pretty beautiful game. I think generally they want the tech specs to be a low barrier to entry for a game where they want millions of players playing concurrently. It also cannot be super heavy or things like raids and battlegrounds would chug.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One thing that Blizzard has always been good about it making games that can run on a potato. It'll look like crap and your view distance will be obnoxiously short, but you can run WoW on a potato of a laptop and still participate in the core gameplay. Obviously, there's lots of options to crank up the graphics to 11/10 if you have a powerful computer, but I really appreciate that they lower the hardware barrier to entry where they can.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

World of Warcraft: The War Within was announced alongside two other expansions as part of the Worldsoul Saga at BlizzCon 2023, and first impressions from players seem to be pretty positive, with one notable exception: nobody's happy about the idea of paying $90 for three days of early access to the new content.

There are three ways to purchase The War Within. You can get the $50 base edition, or you can upgrade to the $70 heroic edition if you want access to a bonus mount and transmog set. Or, if you want even more digital goodies, you can grab the $90 epic edition, which includes some other tchotchkes, plus 30 days of game time, guaranteed access to the beta, and three days worth of early access to the expansion itself.

It's three days early, and the $90 includes a bunch of other stuff.

If you don't want to pay it, don't.

The only downside in the article is other people might get it. The less people who buy it the less it matters

So just have guilds boycott it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Three days headstart if you're playing competitively is huge. Is this preaccess going to allow people to start leveling? If so literally all hardcore guilds will require it from their raiders.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Blizz is making increasingly more shitty games, and without shame also increases the price in tandem with the shittyfication. People should have understood it by now, but for those who haven't, it's time to abandon ship.

[–] mindbleach 13 points 9 months ago (73 children)

Only legislation will fix this.

You were never going to shop your way out of it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you have been playing WoW since release and have all the current expansions, $90 is barely anything! /s

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did they lift that subtitle from Warframe?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Don’t just say it, don’t pay for it.

[–] AMillionNames 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's very shitty. Starfield did this, but it's not the same to do it for a singleplayer game than to do it for the competitive multiplayer part of the fanbase who will try to rush the expansion.

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