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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All of the above.

In some areas, I'm very smart. Others I am a massive idiot. I think I probably average out to a solid average intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I think this is the correct answer. I am very smart in a few things. Average at a bunch of things and dumb regarding tons of things.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a programmer. Sometimes I solve a really hard programming problem in a clever way with very few lines of code, and I feel like I'm the smartest person in the world. Other times I can't solve a really simple problem and I realize that I'm actually a moron that gets lucky sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's programming for you, hah.

Sidenote: For what it's worth, I think you're pretty smart to solve things like that. I'm probably not as experienced as you, but it's kind of telling that I've never had that feeling of an elegant solution.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smart enough to get into a phd program but dumb enough to think doing a phd was a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking of working on a PhD, but enough people with a PhD have told me not to that I've decided maybe I should listen to the smart people and not do it. Best wishes to you, you tortured soul!

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[–] pornhubfan 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm smart. I work a smart person job with a lot of really smart people, which makes me feel not smart at times because a lot of my coworkers are smarter than me. I'm also insane though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Imposter syndrome was a real problem for me.

One of the things that really helped with that for me was when a colleague I really respected confided in me about their imposter syndrome.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was gifted kid, always the smartest, highest test scores. Then I got older. I know I'm above average intelligence in lot of things. But smart enough to know how stupid I can be, that I have lots of faults, limitations. There are many kinds of intelligence, and always more to learn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same boat. Got used to (and still ocasionally) being praised for practical applications. Limitations and faults aplenty.

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[–] OneWomanCreamTeam 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People always tell me I'm smart. And I definitely have some things I'm good at. But I'm pretty dumb about a lot of stuff, but I think that's pretty normal.

Honestly, I try not to think about people in terms of smart/stupid. Everyone has a complicated set of strengths and weaknesses that are slowly changing all the time. Just labeling someone as smart or stupid is overly simplistic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That sounds pretty smart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I share this perspective. I’m often told that I’m smart, but I’m really just normal I guess.

The more people I meet, the more I realize there’s a bunch of knowledge out there I have zero clue about and I realize it’s not about being smart or dumb; we just all have different strengths.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm smart enough to know that there's a lot I don't know, and I took enough psychology classes to know that IQ tests are basically made-up nonsense. Comparing your intelligence to others is a losing battle and a waste of time.

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[–] Ironfist 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I watched too many people bitch and moan about vaccines and masks during a pandemic... I dont think I'm smart, the bar is just too low.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't have grounds to reach any reasonable conclusion about my own capabilities, since I have access to different info about myself vs. about other people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sounds like something a smart person would say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's what they want you to think.

If they come out and say "I am very smart" everyone will make fun of them.

Eh. That probably means you're right.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say overall I'm below average. Fairly dumb. Bottom 30% of society.

I don't mind it too much. I know a lot about cinema and film history so I'm happy with that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here lol. Don't know that much about movies either though. I'm fairly slow too especially socially but somehow I tricked a woman into loving me... so that's nice.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I got very good grades at a top university in a stem subject. Most people regard me as smart. My professor who supervised my masters thesis regarded me as smart. I guess I can consider myself smart.

My brain power helps me with my job, otherwise I do the same things as everybody else.

My best life decisions came from equanimity, introspection and honesty with myself, not from being smart.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm a complete idiot. So probs 30% to 40% smarter than the average American Republican.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Smart enough to:

See the gaps in my knowledge

Know there are gaps I haven’t even found yet

That I have and will continue to do dumb shit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, very smart. External validation for years since being tested at like 6 and being told my options were staying in public school and skipping to 5th grade or going to private school where my needs could be met within an age appropriate setting.

Then there were all the tests since where I would score in the 98th percentile or higher.

The most impactful was my professional experience where my coworkers were a decade older than me and I found myself being brought in as an expert on stuff for Fortune 500 CEOs, US cabinet nominees, etc.

And yet there are times I'm straight up an idiot. Like not thinking that I can move the silverware off the napkin and lift it up to my face instead of bringing my face to the napkin. Sometimes my SO will do something simple like adding sugar to cereal I find too bland so I don't eat it, and my brain breaks with the realization that was always an option.

Brains come in a variety, and while I was lucky to get one that aligned in where it excelled with what society measures and values, I've generally found that many people are gifted in some aspect of their brains - it's just unevenly valued by the world around them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I always felt I was "smarter than the average bear" (I think I just dated myself), but I had no solid evidence growing up, besides my mother insisting that I was very smart for my age. I almost skipped 2 grades in elementary school because I was reading adult books before I even started school, and I could write just as well. But my math knowledge was just average, so they didn't want me to get behind if I missed a couple grades.

Despite this, I was a solidly C+/B- student for most of my schooling. I aced the tests placed in front of me, but I hated homework, so I just didn't do it most of the time. I understood the material the first time it was presented to me; I didn't understand why I needed to continually go over it in my free time. It felt like a waste of time. Plus, I had a hard time learning from the teachers. I did much better if I just read the textbook on my own, rather than sitting through a lecture.

In high school, I was failing a few classes. My mother thought I considered myself stupid and was afraid it was wrecking my confidence. Apparently, when she was a kid, she also thought she was stupid. She was failing a bunch of classes, while her eldest sister was getting straight-A's. She got her IQ tested and found out she was actually the smartest of all her siblings - her eldest sister actually had the lowest IQ in their family!

So my mother made it her personal mission to prove I was smart. After all, you're supposed to inherit your intellect from your mother, and my mom had a genius IQ. She hired a psychologist to give me an official IQ test, and to no one's surprise, I tested in the genius range too. So I finally received validation that I was smart.

It didn't fix my grades, though. It turns out, I was getting poor grades because A.) I refused to do homework, which lost me half my grade points alone, and B.) I was bored in class and didn't really pay attention. I would find out 20 years later that I have ADHD, which is why I couldn't pay attention in class. I have very poor auditory learning skills; when people talk to me, my brain shuts off. So lectures were the absolute death of me.

I joined the US Air Force right after high school, and unfortunately, the military requires you to blindly obey orders and not think too hard about things. Everything is dumbed down so the mission can be accomplished, even in the most stressful of scenarios. The Air Force has the strictest tests to qualify for service, and we tend to have the highest intelligent people in the armed services, but it was still a drag. I spent too many years trying to argue logic and reason with my superiors and coworkers, which fell on deaf ears. So I eventually got complacent and started doing the bare minimum to accomplish the mission and get through my days. By the end of my 2 decades of service, I feel like my brain has been through the blender and I feel much dumber than I used to be. Could also be some added PTSD, too.

Now I'm retired at a young age and living a quiet, relaxing life out in the countryside. I'm not too concerned anymore about being smart or dumb, just as long as I can live in peace.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought I was smart. And I took a class in college called Critical Theory Since Plato. It was philosophy, although I was dumb enough not to know that. Every class there would be lively discussion on the reading material where everyone was involved. Except me. I had read the material, but it was beyond my understanding. I dare not open my mouth. I just listened to people who were obviously a number of levels more intelligent than I was discuss the assignments.

It was then that I realized that there were people in the world who had a quality of intelligence so much higher than mine that we might not even seem like the same species.

Just like a tall person can see above the heads of everyone in a crowd, they could see things that were impossible for me to see. And those were the "ordinary" smart people.

It gave me a new respect for not only intelligent people, who were very kind to me, but also for those who are on the other end of this spectrum, who through no choice of theirs struggle with daily tasks. And for myself, slightly above average, and happy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gifted 2E kid who could "do so much with her life if only she tried"

I can do tests like you wouldn't believe, but outside of that context, I'm about as average as it gets!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I was tested as a kid with a 140 IQ but did my best to get that down to average levels with pot as a teenager. Every report card "... has a lot of potential if they applied themself."

Sadly, I didn't cure cancer. I got really into cooking and then computers, slowly realizing that while I might be smart on those tests, I am not really emotionally intelligent or particularly good at getting my crap together to make things happen.

Life kind of carried me along. I did lots of cool stuff but made major life decisions on a whim.

Everything changed when I met my wife (we weren't married before I met her, that happened later) and combined my abilities with hers. I finally feel like I have a place in the world and know what I'm going to be doing a week, month, or year from now with some certainty. Feels good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't care. I'll notice if there is a big difference between me and a person in front of me.

And sometimes one person is ignorant when it comes to one topic and super experienced and knowledgeable with another topic. And I'm the same things with different topics. So I can't even answer if I'm smarter than another person without you giving me a topic. Apart from that, it's just a number. And the benchmarks suck.

How did I come to that conclusion? I don't remember. Guess I have good reasoning skills and a bad memory.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I had to sit down and accept I am more intelligent than the majority of people by virtue of the fact that I read and paid attention in school, and I had to after watching the political situation in the U.S. deteriorate.

It deteriorated because people refused to learn to read and write correctly, leaving them unable to examine primary sources or fully comprehend what they read in the news, online, everywhere.

It deteriorated because people refused to learn math and science, meaning they can no longer verify factual claims charlatans make to them, or figure out when their bosses are ripping them off, or budget, or make their own stuff.

It deteriorated because people outright rejected the notion of critical thinking and logical debate on principle, preferring instead to force people to submit to their paper-thin view of the world and to accept certain assumptions that lead people to accept authoritarianism in turn.

And it's sad to see. It's sad to watch people so hopelessly fucking stupid and dependent on the system that they'll fight to protect it, and it's even sadder watching them flip the fuck out when you tell them their economic woes are partially their own fault because they refuse to be educated or to use their education.

It's a sad thing to have to accept but it's the truth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I am very smart in a single field of study and very dumb in normal life. Yay neurodivergence…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Int score 18 Wis score 16ish Cha score 8 Motivation score 3 Addiction resistance 2

I've been known to be smart since I was 7 or so. It's awful, because my parents assumed that since I could do math I wouldn't have any mental health problems. D&D is nice because it demonstrates there is more to the brain than a single spectrum, but even that falls short.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

i think I'm quite smart in a narrow field. I'm an idiot at a lot of things

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘m stuck in a dunning-Kruger-loop. I think I’m kinda smart so that must meant I’m actually kinda dumb but then if I think I’m dumb that must mean I’m actually smart but if I think im smart it must mean I’m really kinda dumb…

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yes. Yes. Yes. Repetition.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My wife tells me I’m smarter than I give myself credit for. I’m terrible at logistical things. Math cripples me. I’m not however, easily persuaded by propaganda. IDK

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think saying "I am dumb" has a lesser burdon of prrof so there we go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm smart enough to know that I'm dumb.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Smart is a weird word and I don't know if I would describe me as that.

I rather consider myself as rational/intellectual. I might not know a lot of things, but I feel like the way I think is somewhat uncommon when compared to the general population. Emotions don't cloud my judgement as much, and I seem to have this ability to take few steps back and observe things from afar. Because of this I'm a really mixed bag when it comes to my views on current affairs, and by knowing my stance on few issues doesn't really help you to figure out what I think about the rest. I can usually also be honest to myself about facts even when it's inconvenient for me.

I'm the kind of person who you ask a simple question from, and you get a lecture in return, because I'm physically unable to give overly simplified answers to complex, nuanced questions which is basically all of them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm either the dumbest smart person or the smartest dumb person. Depends on the day. Lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm smart (IQ tested at average 140 over three runs in school.) I have Asperger's which tends to make you smart intellectually but dumb socially. I'm very dumb socially. I saw a meme that really spoke to me the other day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Anyone who says their smart overestimates themselves. Anyone who says their dumb underestimates themselves. How does anyone even answer this question?

Pedants who choose to make big deals over minor issues are always out to prove something and are objectively not smart.

[–] xtr0n 6 points 1 year ago

Anyone who says their smart overestimates themselves. Anyone who says their dumb underestimates themselves. How does anyone even answer this question?

I think it’s possible for someone to know that they are generally pretty smart or not very smart without over or under estimating. A lot of people will over or under estimate but if you’re just looking for a rough placement in a third of the bell curve, there’s a lot of feedback in everyday life to help.

Pedants who choose to make big deals over minor issues are always out to prove something and are objectively not smart.

Some people sincerely have trouble adapting to different precisions of language in different situations. I know some very smart and successful people with autism who struggle with this. It can be super annoying when they are way too pedantic for the context but I don’t think being deficient in this one area makes them dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I find useful not to think both myself or others as smart/not smart, but wise or wiser. Being smart is not always wise. Playing dumb may be wise at times. Wisdom goes way beyond smartness, as it's a mixture of kindness, experience, sensibility, and virtue.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Average. As a prior it just seems most likely and I'm not really up my own ass enough, nor do I trust myself enough, to fairly account for things that would prove one way or another

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am really smart. I am really dumb. I am average.

(smart + dumb) / 2 = average

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