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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/46890078

cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Canada, nows the time to reveal your secret robot army and take revenge. You have a secret robot army, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is the last chance for the world-at-large to stop this. murica LLC is cooked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Looks at all the previous lines in the sand, stretching far off into the distance

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is why, as a Canadian, I will not be going to the US any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Ice kills foreign citizen

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Fascist regime kills foreign national. Fixed.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, the same passive voice. The word they should use is Killed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's archetypal passive voice since it doesn't change the target of the verb and uses state-of-being plus past participle.

"ICE kills Canadian citizen" switches this around.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Masked Gang Kidnap and kill Canadian citizen under Trump orders

would be a proper title

[–] [email protected] 233 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If Iran was holding a US citizen against their will and let them die in custody, we would drop a nuke on them.

I hope Canada takes the opportunity to punish us hard for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Iran has not confirmed that they have him in detention and this was a spy. They literally caught a US spy. Do you know what we do to people we catch spying in the US?

This is quite literally not the same thing. The US has accidentally killed a Canadian tourist. If a part of Iran's government killed a US citizen we'd use that to launch War today.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s not the same thing, but he was a permanent resident for over thirty years

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

~~That's an interesting part of the story but in this case this Canadian tourist hadn't live in the country at all. I feel like the speed at which he entered the US and then died indicates a problem with us custody and handling.

Like I feel like it's more egregious if you lived in the country for 30 years and then you know were prosecuted as a spy but to just die from being detained is total bullshit~~

Misread something not valid.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get it dude, but the US citizen in Iran was a CIA agent fucking with the country.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dunno about a nuke. Maybe a stern glance in the direction of Iran. I know it's not quite the same since Saudi Arabia is our frienemy after 9/11, but this US administration's support is probably more based on skin color than anything.

Jamal Khashoggi

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

It sorta depends on what kind of US citizen they are. As one example, US-Israeli citizens are precious innocents who must be protected at all costs, but US-Palestinian citizens are fine as collateral.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“At no time during detention is a detained illegal alien denied emergent care.”

I guess that doesn't go for legal residents, like this guy was.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For them, immigrants aren't humans and do not deserve humane treatment. Who tf calls a human being an "alien"??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The first definition of alien is "foreign", not "extraterrestrial".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's dehumanizing language, nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah but he probably just got here...

Checks notes

ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

37 years ago

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, at that point, he was more American than Canadian. The US government should have to explain either why he wasn't granted citizenship or else why he wasn't deported. Keeping people in citizenship limbo is just diet slavery, a disposable workforce. I get that's probably the whole point and has been for a while, but I also think it's good to call it out until enough people care to make a change.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Canada now gets to pick one of ours. Fair is fair.

Any one. Anyone at all. Just pick >_>

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Anyone? Why let more innocent people suffer. Hand over those responsible.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Are politicians on the menu?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's a difficult choice. So many good candidates. But we're still nicer than that, for now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

anyone specific? I have a little list Of society offenders who might well be underground And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!

[–] otp 8 points 2 days ago

Only one?

/joke

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

wonder how next snowbird migration is going to play out

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's already not good this year. My dad owns a condo in Florida and said a lot of the Canadians sold their condos in his complex. They just didn't want to deal with the extra immigration paperwork this administration added.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

But especially the paperwork in the gulags.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This comment pisses me off so much.

Are you serious? Paperwork? That's what your dad thinks Canadians are concerned about?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have a second condo in Florida they're well off and mostly-white

They have that "won't happen to me" attitude.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Hmm, they sound nice.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably since I'm assuming most of them are white.

Old white people basically never think they're going to be the target for government discrimination.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

My parents used to go down to Arizona. They sold their trailer back in 2018 (so just before Covid which was very lucky). They've done the odd trip down to the US (they sold because they wanted to go to different places) but plan to go out to Vancouver Island and other places more often now.

Family friends with a house in Palm Desert sold their place after Trump joked about Canada being the 51st state and plan to never go back down again. At least for as long as he is president.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cool, we’re starting to murder our neighbors. How great for us. Super swell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Starting? I need to remind you Mexicans are US neighbors too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

True. I apologize.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

ooooooh, careful guys. that border has lawyers. you were only supposed to cause wrongful deaths on the other one

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Follow the money. I guarantee a private company was involved and they probably do some kind of business in Canada. Make sure they're completely booted from the Canadian market.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would say don't visit the USA, but he was a citizen. Crazy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not a citizen, but he should have been. If a legal resident has been in the US for ten years, the government should either have to grant them citizenship or explain why they don't qualify and deport them. This guy was selling drugs, yeah, but he was also probably paying taxes. That's the whole point of the system as it is, exploiting immigrants for illegal labor and then blaming them when they get caught. This guy should have gotten a trial, probably some prison time, and enough rehabilitation to reenter free society.

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