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The family members of a U.S. citizen who was taken into custody by federal agents in downtown Los Angeles on Tuesday are demanding answers as she was detained while on her way to work.

Andrea Velez, a Cal Poly Pomona grad working in merchandising at a shoe company, had just been dropped off by her mother and sister for the workday when they saw her being taken into custody, adding they had barely even driven a block before the arrest began.

"They didn't have vests that said ICE or anything," said Velez's sister Estrella Rosas. "Their cars didn't have license plates."

She says that her mother was driving away when she looked in her rearview mirror at what was described by police as immigration enforcement.

"In the rear mirror she saw my sister was kinda, like, attacked from the back and she was already on the floor," Rosas said.

Video shows a growing crowd of onlookers yelling as officers surround the 32-year-old woman. Her family members were too scared to get out, as Rosas' mother has residency but not full U.S. citizenship.

They're also worried that Velez may have been holding pepper spray, which they say she always carries in her hand when walking downtown, when agents approached her.

Witnesses told CBS News Los Angeles that no one asked for her identification, but her family believes that it was nothing she actually did that led to her arrest, but rather the way she looks.

"Just because of the color of our skin, they think we're criminals," Rosas said. "My sister was there, so they were like, 'Oh, she looks Hispanic, so let's take her too.'"

As of Tuesday night, they have still not been able to find out where Velez is being held and are worried it could be days before they finally do.

CBS News Los Angeles has reached out to the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement for information on Velez's arrest but has not yet heard back. An inquiry was also made asking how agents check a person's status when they first come into contact, and how they find the people they're targeting in enforcement operations.

Some of the video circulating online, showing Velez's arrest, also shows a group of Los Angeles police who appear to be aiding federal agents in the immigration operations.

Later Tuesday, officers told CBS News Los Angeles that they were called to the area after receiving a 911 call reporting a kidnapping at the location. When they arrived, they say that they saw that a federal immigration operation was underway and stayed to maintain peace because they were concerned by the growing crowd and the federal agents.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago

Our ICE officers are now facing a 500 percent increase in assaults against them while they carry out enforcement operations

Those are rookie numbers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The saddest part of this post is that th title has to stipulate that the disappeared is a US citizen. Because so many now are willing to accept that disappearing non-citizens is just hunkydory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

For me the point I want to make is that none of us are safe. We need to protect due process for everyone. Yes there are a subset of people that don't care about the gov. deporting non citizens. If they see it's happening to citizens, maybe they will start to care, maybe they will see how wrong it is to violate the rights of immigrants. I dunno. Like how do you reach these people to show them how wrong it all is?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Don’t go to a second location with someone who makes you uncomfortable

You may disappear, you’re trusting this person or people who make you uncomfortable with your safety.

Fight for your life.

If you’re gonna lose that fight, drag one with you.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Remember. Shoot first. Determine whether they were ICE or human traffickers later since they didn't provide identification.

Actually, ICE are human traffickers considering we know, as a fact, that they've kidnapped actual American citizens.

So yeah, just shoot.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if this wasn’t ICE, but human traffickers? Is there even a difference these days?

[–] Bakkoda 16 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are standing by watching as the gestapo commits genocide, you are aiding the gestapo. Think about that when it's your turn to be a bystander.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep looking for the helpers, as Mr Rogers said to do, but I’m not seeing much help.

I put up signs at least. I try to leave zines and literature and argue with people online.

I know there is more to be done, but I don’t know. I hope that there is some justice done, and that I am doing enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't see the helpers, you need to be the helper. The bystander effect is a real thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m genuinely trying. I have a very specific mission I’ve been working on for a year. There has been no success. There is no support. I need community, I need to see others doing the same.

I have done everything short of violence, and I cannot do violence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Kudos to just not having it in you to hurt people.

What's the project?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Mental health justice - primarily for children.

Mental health care in southern states is a hell right now. A lot of child welfare agencies have taken Trump’s election as permission to stop functioning.

I also used to work with a lot of undocumented children, but it’s no longer safe to be a trans teacher. So I do independent outreach, education. Trying to make all children feel valued.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

It can take a lot to make a kid feel worthwhile at the best of times. That it's anyone's goal at all is already a pretty huge comfort, I think. Shit, you managed to not crumple to hate, even now. That's our humanity, that's what we're fighting for, anyway. Always good to see it. I'll take it anywhere I can find it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Didn't Biden deport over 4 million without needing gestapo tactics? It's clear that even the deportations aren't really the main goal, it's fear and repression of the population.

And it's being reported that Trump is even deporting people at a lower rate compared to Biden, which is very telling when you consider how little attention this was getting with Biden.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is why the black panthers carried AK's

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I agree, unfortunately. If these people aren’t going to properly identify themselves & instead drive around in unmarked cars with masks on, what makes them any different than a criminal? How do we know they aren’t criminals? If a criminal mimics this behavior, what’s to stop them?

These current tactics are shadowy & undermining rule of law (nevermind the behavior much farther up the chain). There has to be some way to validate this as state activity. Otherwise, we’ll get more copy cat criminals where the public can’t provide any meaningful facts.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

what makes them any different than a criminal?

Given that they're committing crimes, they literally ARE criminals. Abducting people without due process is kidnapping no matter who you are.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Criminals are already mimicing this behavior

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's when California started restricting firearms so heavily, under Republican leadership at the time.

The Republicans love to talk about CA gun restrictions, and conveniently leave out that they started it specifically to undermine citizens expressing their 2nd amendment rights in the state.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the NRA supported such gun control

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For months, masked individuals with no police agency markings have been leaping out of unmarked vehicles that have no licence plates, refusing to identify themselves in any way, then kidnapping people off of the streets; and not one of them has faced any true resistance.

What the fucked has happened to America. Is "hey don't do that", really all you've got???

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

What the fucked has happened to America.

We didn't create legislation to prevent propaganda networks from brainrotting the dumbest segment of our population.

We also have a treasonous party abdicating their responsibilities and ceding their power to an authoritarian while making gaslighting Americans and disenfranchising voters their entire policy platform.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Eventually, they will hit a citizen carrying. Until then, they won't stop.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm in Texas and I'm really shocked it hasn't happened yet.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I recon they're doing this in California because California has such strict gun laws

[–] vaultdweller013 3 points 1 day ago

That works brilliantly right until some Cholo rams a bayonet they bought at a flee market into their gut. I ain't making fun of them, Cholos and flee markets are great.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Even then, they won't stop, they'll play the victim after shooting the guy. If you shoot back, even if you didn't know they were police or federal agents you'll still get prosecuted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

*Executed, extra judicially

Ain't no way these fucks are going to let up at the opportunity to unload their mags into anybody who shoots at them.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Later Tuesday, officers told CBS News Los Angeles that they were called to the area after receiving a 911 call reporting a kidnapping at the location. When they arrived, they say that they saw that a federal immigration operation was underway and stayed to maintain peace because they were concerned by the growing crowd and the federal agents.

remember, calling the police won't save you or someone else from being abducted, they'll just "keep the peace" (read: keep any bystanders from saving you) while you are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

911 dispatcher: A kidnapping? Those kidnappers need our help!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The one good thing about this administration is that the cancer has been drawn out like the poison from a wound. Now, everyone can see it. This problem has been festering like a wound since the enactment of Civil Rights laws. But it has been burried. It was there. It always was. Just out of sight, thus out of mind. Look around everyone. Look at who is doing this. Never forget, and never forgive.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Someone is going to shoot an ICE "officer" before summer's over

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The police are traitors to America, and should be considered ICE collaborators at Nuremberg.

[–] ayyy 38 points 2 days ago

Of course it’s another pretty young woman. These people are just human traffickers, not law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

An inquiry was also made asking how agents check a person's status when they first come into contact, and how they find the people they're targeting in enforcement operations.

Yeah if you can't answer this question within 4 months of this shit, it might be a good time to report the only other option. But no, let's keep giving them the benefit of the doubt in the media.

Do not forget, anyone working any police job is an enemy, and anyone reporting on it unfaithfully is also the enemy.

[–] knobbysideup 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How long before somebody lights these fuckers up?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ask any MAGA citizen what they would do if the feds came to illegally ship them or their loved ones to some random 3rd world country, but see how quickly they'll call you a terrorist for doing the same

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can ask a MAGA person almost anything and get a "I'm a hardass" type answer. However, the reality is many are cowardly little shits.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This lady was the second person arrested by them during this timeframe. The first person, a guy who was apparently defending a tamale street vendor, might have also been a US citizen.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I presume they’re all U.S. citizens until proven otherwise in court.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

As a practical matter, most or all of these people are wearing body armor. It isn't full coverage, but it would make shooting them effectively a great deal more difficult. They also operate in large groups, which makes attacking any one of them a lot more dangerous.

The first civilian to shoot at them will almost certainly be killed within seconds. Anyone nearby is also likely to be hit, either accidentally or intentionally. Uninvolved civilians anywhere nearby are also likely to be hit. The agents are unlikely to care about their backstops or about collateral damage.

Any attack on possible government agents that is not part of a well-planned group response, using appropriate weapons, is going to result in civilian casualties and is unlikely to have any effect on the agents. That is not to say it couldn't be done, but a few people responding with concealed carry weapons are not likely to succeed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

The human bite force is enough to easily remove a finger, it takes 33 pounds of force to crush a human trachea, and it only takes 7 pounds of force to rip a human ear clean off and/or to pop an eyeball out.

Not related to what you're saying, just a big Mythbusters fan is all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah sorry I genuinely don't understand the people saying call 911 as some form of protest or help for the victim like the cops aren't gonna show up to support the white dudes totallyinsisting they should be there. The best you accomplish is making a dispatchers job more difficult and they are the real first responders, worst is clogging lines for an actual emergency.

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