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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when some jokers started selling Faraday cages for Wi-Fi routers on Amazon, claiming that it would protect the user from wireless signals?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago

well i mean they're not lying

[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I see the problem, your AP is in the Faraday Chasity Cage. Closing ticket."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Putting my horny robots in the faraday chastity cage

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

Maybe if use smaller, tighter squares.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just impressed they labelled the WAP.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Get a bucket and a mop for that wireless access point

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

*Wet Access Point.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is a 2.4 GHz directional WiFi antenna. Only the back element is connected to the transceiver. All of the other elements are there to focus the signal. Anything metallic within a few feet of an antenna will have a substantial effect on the signal. Think of it as light, because it is, only transparency of materials is a bit weird. The biggest issues will come from metallic materials that are earth grounded and anything with a wire length that is close to the wavelength of the radio light or below, especially around half and a quarter of the wavelength. That pictured wire pitch is spaced very close to the approximate 2.4 GHz wave length. For example most antenna are an insulated trace on a circuit board that is insulated with ground up to a point and then there is a small circuit element that stops the ground and the actual antenna trace continues for the respective light wavelength to transmit or receive. All an antenna is here is an exposed length of single conductor wire.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's just an AP. That's not a directional antenna for a wireless bridge. You can even read the AP sticker on it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All those confident words they typed... for nothing. Lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I must be missing the joke or something? That's literally what this is. It's an AP not a directional antenna. I have used a ton of directional antennas. Hell I have one that I'm using to get my network to my garage which is 1/4 of a mile away.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Ah lol I gotcha!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, It looks like a Cisco Aironet 2702i WAP.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think they were trying to say that the cage in front with the AP behind, acts as a directional antenna. Similar to how Yagi antennas have metal elements that aren't connected in front of the actual antenna.

But I don't know enough antenna theory to know if that's correct.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It'll more likely act as a faraday cage.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if this was right, which it isn't, wifi stopped being 2.4Ghz exclusive almost 20 years ago. You have 5Ghz and since 5 year ago or so, 6Ghz, with significantly shorter wavelengths.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And if I look at the frequency spectrum I see that all my neighbours use 2.4GHz (9 are in channel 8) and I got the entire 5GHz spectrum to myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Channel 8? I thought modern routers automatically select 1 6 and 11. That must be some ancient equipment around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably because for most people as long as it works it works and there's no reason to upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, but 9 networks on channel 8 can hardly be described as something "working". I'd bet you barely get a 1mbps on that, and a crazy jitter and packet loss.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hmm I don't think I get this one.

Is it because its in a cage? I don't think that will do much to block the WiFi antenna.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The bar spacing is smaller than 2.4GHz radio waves. It absolutely will affect signal. Should have used a plastic cage.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are they really that big? Huh, TIL.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Fascinating, thanks for the info

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you liked that, check microwave doors design.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I really enjoyed the Technology Connections video on Michaelwave ovens, actually.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Michael has such a cleaner design than that MikeRoweWave crap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Michealwaves have like 200 times more michaelfarads of capacity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Doesn't look grounded, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It is probably more of a reflector rather than blocker, sending the signal back through the wall

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Screws in masonry probably act as a poor Ufer ground. The current is minuscule.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wifi is a fickle beast, though you may be right.

The elements of the cage will probably interfere, but won't straight up block the signal. To be an effective faraday cage, holes in the material must be no bigger than 1/10th the wavelength.

2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm, and 5GHz is about 5cm...so holes in the cage should be no bigger than 1.2cm for 2.4GHz, or 0.5cm for 5GHz.

I may expect some signal reflection and likely a high noise floor as a result to being so close to a hunk of metal. That'll cause some problems.

Problem #1 is this AP is oriented vertically on a wall. The antennas in these models are designed to be parallel to the floor, and usually not much higher than 15ft.

[–] TriflingToad 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm

that's actually massive, I thought it would be like half a centimeter at most

[–] zqps 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Newer standards are substantially shorter at 5GHz and 6GHz, but this comes at the cost of significantly worse signal penetration through walls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Which in a gym will be will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Faraday cages cannot block stable or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth's magnetic field (a compass will still work inside one). To a large degree, however, they shield the interior from external electromagnetic radiation if the conductor is thick enough and any holes are significantly smaller than the wavelength of the radiation

I'm certainly no expert, but something tells me the cage in OP's pic doesn't fit the criteria to act as a faraday cage.

E: Nope, I'm wrong. u/deegeese has informed me on how big the wavelength is.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The mesh is not dense enough to be a true Faraday cage for 2.4GHz, but is dense enough to hurt signal strength.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It says WiFi is "slow" not "off."

I have definitely personally experienced WiFi instability with metals in between the WiFi and a PC.

Looks like possibly enough to make it drop a bunch of packets to me at least.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

It will not act as a Faraday cage, the holes need to smaller for that, about 1 cm max. However, wifi signals do get disturbed by a cage like this due to the low power of these signals.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Faraday was here!

[–] ThePantser 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They need more "I" in their IT, plastic protectors exist.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah boss the RSSI numbers look great!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Oh I see the issue... They forgot to ground the cage

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