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[–] [email protected] 7 points 58 minutes ago

Nah I say we make some cuts to the capitalists

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Thing about a class war is it only works as long as you can subdivide the lower classes and make them hate each other.

Even the GOP base has figured out that the boot on their neck belongs to the rich, probably thanks to Elon's haphazard culling of govt employees, specifically veterans, while preserving funds that benefit the rich.

Say what you will about conservative voters, but when something is obviously harming them specifically they will go after it, and Trump's administration has finally blundered enough to wake at least some of them up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Finally they know who their true enemy is

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

Tax them or eat them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

If they refuse to tax them, I say we EAT them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

What about their legs? They don't need their legs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I say we cage them in cuba and let them eat each other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

You know how some Chinese provinces eat frogs? I want my millionaire done like that, but I want to be the one who salts them.

[–] [email protected] 185 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I'm fairly convinced that what makes a lot of the US population right wing is a lack of understanding of what that means.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

My dad (long time conservative but can't get on the trump train which is good at least) thinks that "tax the rich" means people like high end doctors and surgeons. People who are absolutely in the top 1% but like "has a nice weekend car and maybe a lake house" not people making millions of dollars per month or week (or more)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

Your dad thinks that people earn money by working for it. In other words, he's what would be a normal person in a socialist society.

All you have to do now is teach him what capitalism is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

The top 1% make roughly $600k per year, or probably more significantly (as not all rich people get "income"), a net worth of $11million according to this article

So yeah, maybe some doctors are in that category, but it's probably just the real big earners.

[–] Kecessa 72 points 15 hours ago

"The difference in wealth between a surgeon and a billionaire is about one billion dollars, it's the billionaires that need to pay more taxes, they pay a smaller % than you."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, it's hard for the human mind to comprehend how much money a billion dollars actually is and neither of the two major political parties in this country want to expand it to them

[–] [email protected] 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Natural result of the massive and constant effort to make the Republican party seem less insane than it is that's undertaken by both political parties for some reason

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The medias are normalizing the pathological behaviours from the GOP. That false requirement to be unbiased in the face of the most serious breach to the constitution is what got us here.

Not all ideas are worth consideration and mainstream medias are failing to understand that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

"failing to understand that" oh they're aware, it's just they're all large companies with motivations to keep the far right in power.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thatKamGuy 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I should probably have mentioned:

The main point of the post is that despite the connotations of the word “debt”, retiring the debt would be a disastrous mistake.

Even running multi-year neutral (or surplus) budgets would probably cause a recession.

And that’s not a weakness of the US economy, it’s just how fiat currency works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That sounds like our economy is being held hostage by billionaires. "You can't take money from us, it'll make things worse for everyone". Bullshit - they'll try to make things worse for everyone but we don't have to let them, which is exactly the point.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 18 hours ago

"So your proposal to solve (the debt) is to tax the rich?"

"So your proposal to solve the empty gas tank is to put gas in the tank?"

"So your proposal to solve the dog getting out of the yard is to repair the fence?"

"So your proposal to solve the problem of not being able to see is to put on your glasses?"

Bro. It's the most obvious solution. It also has the added benefit of being the only one that's proven to work.

Being a representative whose mind doesn't immediately jump to that solution is like being a truck driver and not immediately jumping to the solution of slamming on the brakes when you're speeding toward a red light: it's not a difference of opinion or policy, it's dangerous negligence. Why are you holding meetings about this? If you're dedicated to not slamming on the brakes, just try swerving into the daycare playground or whatever your twisted idea is. Don't hold a town hall asking for a rubber stamp on plowing through the toddlers, and definitely don't act surprised when your constituents react in horror and propose using the brakes instead.

[–] [email protected] 150 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Tax the rich!

…And we voted in the wealthiest man in history and a narcissistic luxury hotel magnate, who openly touted a regressive tax plan, to do it?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago

Somehow they've been convinced that the lower/middle class pays taxes so migrants and other minorities can live like the people they elected and Republicans are the ones fighting to protect them from Democrats who want all their money.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 19 hours ago

Makes perfect sense to some, I'm sure.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

What response was he expecting??

"TAX THE RICH!!!"

"So your solution is to tax the rich?"

"Oh... Well now that you put it that way... No I guess not."

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Wait till you hear what rich folks say about that plan!

https://patrioticmillionaires.org/

(Spoiler: A lot of them agree)

[–] cuteness 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Warren Buffet has been pointing this out for at least 20 years. Bill Gates for at least 6. It’s crazy how the most famous billionaires haven’t moved the needle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Their major misstep is failing to purchase every major social media outlet in the country like the conservatives have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

No, their major misstep is spreading Corona through 5G.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean think about it guy you've been cutting taxes for the Rich for 50 years and the debt has gone up remarkably. It ain't rocket science.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

From 1980 to 2008 there was a perfect correlation between whether a Republican or Democrat was in the oval office and whether the debt was blowing up insanely or actually being paid off (Clinton, the lone Democratic President during that period, actually had a budget surplus the last two years of his Presidency). Unfortunately, it was still impossible to get Republicans to believe that the ballooning debt wasn't the Democrats' fault - "tax and spend liberals" etc. etc. Then Obama joined in the "deficits don't matter" parade as did Biden, and now you can't even use actual facts to try and convince people that Republicans are as far from being "fiscal conservatives" as it's possible to be.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 77 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sure whatever he said after that clip ends was in effort to gaslight that crowd into thinking taxing the rich is somehow a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

BuT thEYRe jOb CrEAtOrs!!!

ThEYrE pHilANthrOPists!!

INovAtIOn! ThEYrE iNnovATorS!!!

[–] RowRowRowYourBot 55 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I loved the “job creators” argument because it is super easy to disprove.

If my company that has one employee makes twice the profits off the same number of orders as it made last year Im not hiring anyone because I don’t need to despite being able to afford it. What would make me hire someone else is the volume of orders increasing past the point where I can fill them hence the customers are the job creators.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

And customers are created by average people having disposable income. Want jobs created? Tax the rich and spread that to the working class. EZPZ.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The dipshits will continue to vote GOP, don't worry.

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