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A woman in Colorado has been arrested after police caught her with expIosives at a TesIa dealership, police said.

The 40-year-old suspect, Lucy Grace Nelson, was arrested on Monday after the Loveland Police Department launched an "extensive investigation" following a series of vandaIizations at the dealership in Loveland, Colorado.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 31 minutes ago

Good try babe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Instead of teslas, why not evil billionaires?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago

Beats the hell out of whining that you didn't vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

those were just teslas.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Outside of one-in-a-billion shots like Mangione, we're still at the discomfort level of unreliable whackadoos being the only ones to try violent direct action. Which means that instead of picking targets that would actually make an impact, they're picking personally symbolic targets that they have easy, ready access to. And they're not even hitting those targets with real success / possibly creating innocent collateral in the process.

We aren't there yet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's also the simple reality that the vast majority of people cannot dedicate the time and resources it takes to plan and execute the assassination of a CEO or national politician. When you're working 60 hours a week to keep food on the table for your family you don't really have a ton a of free time for relentlessly tracking and stalking your target.

[–] GrumpyDuckling 2 points 35 minutes ago

I'm more worried about right wimg extremists knowing they will be pardoned. They can go after soft targets. Want to bet the suoreme court will say that states can no longer file charges if the feds do? Then the feds can file charges, thepetson can admit guolt and be out the next day. Local and state politicians and activista are in the most danger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

What would be better(in Minecraft)?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

The hero we deserve!

[–] Texas_Hangover 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Bitch looks almost exactly like my brother lol.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

Although it appeared first glance to be an explosive device in an awkward moment of enthusiasm, it's actually just a Roman Celebratory Sparklemaker.

[–] dream_weasel 8 points 19 hours ago

Trans folks coming to save the day!

[–] WoodScientist 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Just wait til someone invents the first practical incendiary drone that can be easily made on a consumer 3D printer.

In principle, it's quite simple. All a drone has to do is take off, travel to a fixed set of GPS coordinates, land, and then activate an incendiary of some kind. Maybe a thermite charge, maybe something simpler to set off.

This tech already exists due to the Ukraine conflict. But to my knowledge, it's never been packaged in a form that's easily replicable by an average random person in their home. But I see no reason why it couldn't be. And when it does, all Hell's going to break loose.

On the more class liberation side, it will make burning down the assets of the rich much, much easier and harder to stop. On the other hand, it will also make it easier for fascists to target those resisting fascism. You're an activist of some sort. One night, a drone lands on your roof at 2 AM and sets fire to your house. Who did it? Who knows. Good luck finding out.

Hell, on a large scale, this will make it possible for a single individual to cause a disaster on the scale of the firebombing of Dresden. Consider the extremely dry weather and accompanying fires in Los Angeles. That moment, when the city was dry as tinder and the winds were blowing strong. Imagine if at that moment, someone had decided to release a few thousand incendiary drones on the city. Maybe they saved them up, just for this purpose. Consider how valiantly the fire fighters there worked to protect Los Angeles. And now imagine an alternate history where at that moment 5,000 structure fires erupted simultaneously across the city, including multiples started on the roof of every fire station.

The technology already exists. It's just a matter of someone figuring out how to package it in an accessible form. When that happens, God help us all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

It's easy now to imagine an ancient advanced civilization that destroyed itself.
Also reminds me of a comic I read called print crime.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Cheap gps enabled drones are very plentiful on the internet. You don't need to 3d print anything except maybe the parts to hold the bomb. Just need to reprogram them to have them go to a fixed point and trigger a relay with an explosive. It's trivial, and the fact that it is not common for most people with the skills to do it is because they have a lot to lose if they are caught. Once you take away enough rights and liberties that smart techy people have nothing left to lose then you will see more remote drone attacks.

This is the reason the federal government has been trying to ban drone companies like DJI, they are afraid of the cheap throw away bomb delivery vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Buying the Drone leads to easier tracing. They can investigate anyone who bought any Drone for a certain amount of time. But printing one of your own and having far less traceable electronic components makes that job much harder.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago

Anti-fascist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Isn't this exactly what negotiating with labor unions so workers have good quality of life was made to prevent?

More Americans will become terrorists, and it's no surprise. They have nothing to loose.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

More Americans will become ~~terrorists~~ freedom fighters

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Nothing to lose but your chains, you say 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Ok, I need to explain this to people, but don't blow up or damage Tesla's at dealerships. Aside from the usual about being socially responsible, the dealers and Tesla loses money when cars can't sell and are stuck on lots. Tesla can't sell a dealership a new car if the dealership can't sell a car and make space for a new one on their lot. But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

Let the swasticars just sit there and depreciate on the dealership floor. That's the real way to fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Not sure about the insurance thing. Dunno if they had insurance to cover that. I know home insurance doesn't cover arson. I know of a factory owner that burned down his factory and tried to make it look like an electrical failure because his insurance apparently didn't cover arson. I remember a dealership and all its cars burned up during the BLM protests, and the owner claimed he didn't have insurance.

[–] WoodScientist 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Insurance isn't a magic money machine that erases costs; insurance isn't free money. This is the logic that results in thieves driving small mom and pop shops out of business. Someone will hold up a gas station thinking, "well, insurance will pay for it." But every time a business makes a claim, their insurance premiums go up. And just like car insurance, if you make too many claims, eventually you'll be dropped from coverage, or your premiums will become completely unaffordable. You simply become too great a risk for insurance to cover.

Honestly, torching a Tesla dealership is likely the quickest way to get it shut down. If you just let the cars sit there, they'll keep cutting the asking price until they sell. Teslas might be unfashionable, but plenty of people living paycheck-to-paycheck will ignore the bad optics if it means they get a hell of a deal on a new car.

But if a dealership is burned to the ground? The dealer was probably already resenting being in the business before the arson attack. Most of these guys became Tesla dealers back when Elon had a very different reputation. But now they can't just walk away; they have contracts, leases to pay, a franchise agreement, and a pile of inventory that won't sell. Hell, they probably have once or twice contemplated burning the whole place down themselves just to get the insurance money. And now they have the perfect opportunity to walk away, without having to commit felony insurance fraud. Some random do-gooder just came by and did the criming for them. Sure, they could rebuild, but why? They have an insurance check for millions of dollars. They could spend that rebuilding, getting new inventory etc. But why? Why go to all that trouble, just to end up back selling cars people revile?

I think most people in that situation, unless they were already die-hard MAGA types, would simply chose to take the win and walk away. Maybe they stay in the car business and open up a franchise with some other automaker. Maybe they get out of car sales all together. But there's little reason to stick with Tesla.

That's the real value of arson right now. There are tons of Tesla dealers who would honestly probably welcome an arson attack against their dealership, as long as no one was in the building at the time. They could never say so publicly, but honestly, an arson against a Tesla dealership might be the best thing that ever happened to many of the dealership owners.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

No, you're wrong here. Tldr, its way more expensive to have an unsold vehicle on the lot floor.

So, I understand it's not an independent dealership, but it's a dealership. So, let's assume there is a $50k Tesla on the floor of the dealership, given Tesla's slim margins, it probably cost Tesla somewhere around $45k to manufacture. As with most businesses like this, a significant portion of the vehicle manufacturing costs is done using credit, and settled once the vehicle is sold. So let's assume it's 50% and $22k is from a loan (it's higher, but I don't know what that number is). They pay interest on that loan until they have made enough money from the sale of the vehicle. They pay insurance every month on the vehicle, while it stands there gathering dust. They pay staff, to operate the dealership, with no sales. It's a crisis!

Now, assume someone burns the car. Your insurance pays out for the car, the building repairs, and any (made up) operating losses from not being able to trade. Tesla makes money back, settles the loan, no more interest. Cash liquidity looks better and you can pay staff and operating costs at the dealership. Tesla also gets to tell investors that they "shipped" another Tesla.

Now, you may be thinking, but what about the insurance premiums. Yes, you burned a few cars. Of the thousands that are insured by Tesla. Insurance premiums may go up a dollar or so per car, but this is the power of underwriting risk, is that any single incident which may leave you shit out of luck, actually becomes really manageable by comparison.

Unless the cars aren't insured, in which case it's a crisis.

Also, if the vehicle is discounted to significantly below cost and sold, they stop the cash bleed, but there is a loss, and we can call it community service for being Nazis.

Don't burn dealership (or sales outlets or whatever the fuck they call themselves), don't burn their cars!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tesla doesn't have dealerships. All show rooms are owned by Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve heard the best thing people can do against Musk is to vandalise privately purchased Teslas. I’ve heard that will put mass fear in the market not to buy them.

I’ve heard that vandalising commercially owned Teslas will only result in insurance payouts and more Teslas being made.

I’ve heard that the best way to vandalise privately owned Teslas is to use spray paint, which is relatively easy to clean off (not hurting the owner too much) while being very media-affective.

That’s what I’ve heard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Cybertrucks have a one of a kind windshield wiper that isn't in stock at Tesla, the only place you can get it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla's stock price is mostly detached from sales either way.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

My kind of gal

[–] [email protected] 301 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So she was returning her cybertruck

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 day ago (15 children)

To all the pearl clutchers, it was Molotov cocktails and graffiti, not IEDs. She was vandalizing the dealership.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/lucy-grace-nelson-vandalism-suspect-tesla-dealership-colorado-federal-charges/

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[–] [email protected] 183 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Oh my god! That's horrible!

That she got caught.

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