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The US state department has ordered officials worldwide to deny visas to transgender athletes attempting to come to the US for sports competitions and to issue permanent visa bans against those who are deemed to misrepresent their birth sex on visa applications.

The 24 February state department cable obtained by the Guardian instructs visa officers to apply Immigration and Nationality Act section 212(a)(6)(C)(i) – the “permanent fraud bar” – against trans applicants. Unlike regular visa denials, this section triggers lifetime exclusion from the United States with limited waiver possibilities.

“In cases where applicants are suspected of misrepresenting their purpose of travel or sex, you should consider whether this misrepresentation is material such that it supports an ineligibility finding,” reads the directive from the US secretary of state, Marco Rubio.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is a prime chance for another country to scoop up a shit ton of American talent. Start offering deals to scientists, teachers and athletes to come over to a safe and sane country.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Basically do what the US did in the 50s?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Project ~~paperclip~~ programming socks

[–] not_so_handsome_jack 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wernher Von Braun in programming socks is something I wasn't anticipating to think about today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But what about Hitler in a Playboy bunny suit?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Both is "good"

[–] earphone843 8 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, sadly. I love this country, but people have to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

with the systemic rise of anti-intellectualism, and defunding stem research, i think it will cause a reverse brain drain.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm taking that gig as soon as I get an offer.

I already fled Texas to start hormone therapy, and I'll flee Colorado for foreign shores in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel like I've stagnated career/life wise enough that I'm not particularly desirable enough to get that kind of offer though. I don't speak a second language and my skill set is at best higher tier tech support :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Come to New Zealand. It's nice here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do have a ring i could drop in a volcano... (/s)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Apply anyway, the worst they can say is no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'll just leave this and this here...

[–] Reverendender 2 points 2 days ago

And businesses analysts??

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 days ago

Fascist state oppressing minorities.
MAGA is evil.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago

If I'm reading it correctly, the order denies visas to non-Americans seeking to come to the US. In which case, it's honestly doing them a favor. From one trans person to another, it's not safe here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What will happen if a transgender person shells out the money for Trumps "Gold Card"?

[–] Corkyskog 1 points 1 day ago

Depends on how much money and praise they give him.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Surely this will help the cost of food!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

At this point I think we should stop being coy and just say things like, "More proof that it was about bigotry, not the economy."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Don't be shy, it's time to start shaking smh your head out loud.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reminder: not only was Rubio the first Trump 2.0/Musk 1.0 nominee to be confirmed, it was UNANIMOUS WITH NO ABSTENTIONS 🤬

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

He's by far the most qualified candidate of his picks. Which shows just how awful the rest are.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any trans person trying to get to the states right now needs to strongly reconsider.

Detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region. Are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah it's def not

"Welcome aboard Captain, all systems online"

right now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Emergency, hull failure imminent, abandon ship"?

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[–] WoodScientist 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any trans person trying to immigrate to the US right now should be rejected on psychological grounds. Not that being trans makes one mentally deficient. But being a trans person trying to come IN to the US right now really suggests some serious judgment or mental health issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I get it, it's tasteless, but I get it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So. Can anyone name 10 female college athletes. Since they are so concerned for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm genuinely confused how college sports is so big in the US.

Who in their right mind besides parents and maybe friends gives a flying fuck about sports tournaments of amateur young adults?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Colleges spend obscene amounts of money on college sports, often to the detriment of actual education. And they fight like hell to prevent the athletes from seeing any of that money.

At least, that's what I think goes on, I can't stand sports fandom in general so that ain't my world at all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I think most people like it because it's similar to professional sports but with fewer primadonnas and marketing. I think they think it's more "pure."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You want us to name all 10?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Name any 10 female athletes in College athletics. If you are so concerned with Trans athletes. Thats what I mean. Not saying you don’t respect trans athletes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I was joking that there's literally about 10 trans athletes in college sports out of a couple hundred thousand total, it's crazy how much of a non-issue it really is

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how this could work in practice if someone has an updated passport. It's almost like it's a catch-22, if you put your birth sex on the visa application, it's denied because it doesn't match your passport, but if you put the sex from your passport, you are banned for fraud.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I'm sure that's intended unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

A dangerous way to get around this ban.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

eggs

I wonder if Trump will start to say he hates eggs, due to the implication.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

For fuck's sake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

This a distraction to keep average Republican voters from noticing they've been fooled, and no tax cuts for them, just the wealthy. Expect more of this to coincide with taxation news

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Give it a few months and this will probably affect all trans immigrants. What a shithole country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Loving that "small government" and "States' Rights" that are so sacred and important... Oh, until they can hurt people they hate and don't understand.

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