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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
Stemming from this post https://lemmy.world/post/25792088
This is why some don't see the problem with .ml, they're way more subtle. And to those I say look:
This comment was removed by a .ml mod in that thread and the user banned:
And yet, another comment from a .ml user referencing .world instead, but essentially says the same thing as @[email protected]s comment is allowed to stay up just fine for hours.
Why was that not removed? Where is their ban?
Just .ml Tankie things ig
Their beliefs do not hold up to scrutiny. So they use the censor method.
Wait wtf that fist person wrote out a whole ass essay explaining why and the emotions behind it and they banned them for it. That's fucking wild.
I don’t get why you guys haven’t just blocked the whole instance. It’ll save you a lot of time dealing with stupidity.
It's more worth while to drum up support for defederation since that removes any instances who take it from being part of their userbase, and weakens the network effect they have here. Remember they're still dominating the Linux and Privacy communities on Lemmy and the discussion based fediverse in general.
Honestly, I consider Tankies to be a threat to the Lemmy-verse at large. I've seen it quite a few times, new user comes, sees some Tankie going off with their shit and goes "Oh, this place is just a bunch of tankies" or "oh this place is just Voat 2.0" leaves and then never comes back. Then likely ends up being one of those Redditors who comments on those reddit Lemmy threads about how "They tried it but it was just a bunch of Tankie bs"
Sometimes they do come back, try a different instance and then realizes they just need to block them
If the bigger instances want to take their sweet time defed'ing from them, fine, but there should at least be a visible loud objection of their crap
A key feature of authoritarianism is that it is not supposed to be equal. "I'm on top. I set rules for you and you obey." Trying to adhere to an objective standard, or letting the roles be reversed for a thought-experiment, conflicts with the whole paradigm.
Hey look, it's me! I saw my comment got removed and laughed "of course that tankie shit was from .ml" I said again. Considered posting it here actually but was too lazy, thanks for doing it for me in conjunction with the other ones!
Authoritarians don't like nuance, full stop. You're trying to take a nuanced view to the varying opinions and perspectives that interact on Lemmy? Get the fuck out before you start inferring that we should see users who disagree with us as "people."
I tried to limit blocks to a user-by-user basis, but fuck it, I just blocked that entire miserable instance. I won't have any deficiencies in Russian propaganda exposure while Trump is in office anyway.
I blocked .ml and .hexbear and my experience has been infinitely better.
There are a few .ml tankies who try to invade other instances with new accounts. But they are easy to identify and it's hilarious to watch them be frustrated that nobody outside their bubble agrees with them.
The hours old accounts are always hilarious. Sometimes they put effort in and have something like an 8 month old account but it only posts every other month and only to whine about nato imperialism.