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[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 minutes ago

GOG was good for acquiring and re-releasing OLD GAMES. somewhere along the way they decided they wanted to compete with the big platforms and be "We're just like them but without DRM"

I haven't used GOG for years, they allowed me to relive a few of my old adolescence favorites, but stopped being useful to me a long time ago :/

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Let's be honest, this was apparent for a long time. Steam, a centralised platform, has been making strides in Linux gaming and has been making innovation after innovation together with its steam deck. Gog, a forefront to freedom in gaming, barely did anything for the Linux gaming scene. No innovation either. Its just the simple (and well needed) premise of no DRM. It's necessary, but not enough. It didn't cater to its niche, it just committing to creating one under a premise. That's not how you go forward. How does this connect to bad management? Well, I think that with good management gog would make different moves. And wouldn't rest on its laurels so much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

An official Steam Deck mod would probably be nice. Heroic Launcher kind of works.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

It's pretty hard for GOG. Many of the things people don't like about GOG are not really GOG's fault, they are just a result of small market share. Steam is the bigger platform, and so naturally it gets priority for basically everything.

You game doesn't work on Steam? Then you'd better fix it immediately, because that's where the bulk of players are. But if your game doesn't work on GOG... well.. maybe fix it when you get some spare time. (Or maybe don't have a GOG version, because you don't want to have to keep multiple platforms up-to-date.)

So publishers and developers are generally less cooperative with GOG. And GOG themselves obviously have much more limited resources to do stuff themselves.

Steam's recent work with Linux has been great. And I do wish GOG would have something like that. But again, Valve has vast resources for that kind of thing - and they've been working on it ever since the Windows 8 appstore threatened to wipe them out. (That threat fizzled out; but nevertheless, that was what got the Linux ball rolling for Valve.) I'm in two minds about whether GOG should try to boost their Linux support. On the one hand, GOG is all about preservation and compatibility... and so it makes sense to have better Linux compatibility. On the other hand, it would be leaning further into a niche; and working on a problem that is kind of solved already. i.e. We can already run GOG games on Linux with or without a native linux version... it just could be nicer... Maybe it's not a good use of GOG's resources to go for that.

(That said, when I look at their linux start.sh scripts and see cd "${CURRENT_DIR}/game" chmod +x * it makes me think they could probably put at least a bit more effort into their linux support.)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

The launcher that they have is pretty rough. I downloaded it for Mac OS and it just wouldn’t run right. Kept closing down. If I could just download right from the website they’d have some money.

If they draw is drm free games why only allow purchase through a custom launcher like everything else?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago

If I could just download right from the Website

You can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

I don't use their launcher at all.

It's kind of a convoluted process but you can definitely download every game you own through gog without it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah galaxy is sadly a bit of a mess. Back when i was still running windows it broke its own update capabilities once or twice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Can you not download from the site on mac?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 hours ago

There's nothing wrong with the business model of selling older games at affordable prices. This is about poor management. (Or deliberately bad management by a "CEO" who was hired to destroy GOG to remove a popular choice from us).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago

People talking about money kinda missing the point this is a culture issue. They need to sort themselves out clean house if people can't be reasonable for their staff.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Thankfully if GOG goes down I don't lose anything.

Now if Steam goes down, I lose my entire library

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Gabe Newell has promised that if Steam goes down you won't lose your library, but we only have his word as assurance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No doubt the corporate drones that take over after his death will shit all over his legacy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

It's one of my biggest fears, but I guess there's always piracy especially for old games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for this? People like to repeat this rumour but I've never found out where he promises anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

In addition to that forum archive, here's a Steam support response via Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/18mzcn/i_asked_steam_support_what_happens_to_my_games_if/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20170521113731/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16095809&postcount=7

There's this, the original comment lost to time, but a link to an alleged direct quote from GabeN.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

As great as Gaben and Valve are his word doesn't mean anything (it's not a personal attack either, it's just that it isn't anything binding). Luckily if they fail to keep their promises (or legally cannot) then the crack community will step in. I'm pretty sure they cracked Steam DRM ages ago. I remember a friend using it for Left 4 Dead back in the day.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

A lot of steam games dont have drm

You would lose only most of your library, not all of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I would lose some of my library, but I think most of it would still work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If a game has multiplayer, it most likely has DRM

Terraria and Cuphead are games i know dont work because of that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Can you not connect by IP in Terraria? I had though I had multiplayer running without even starting steam at one point...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Because steam multiplayer is implemented into the game, you cant open the app if steam is not installed

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago

If steam goes down I'm sailing the high seas from then on.

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