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alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head

Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being "censored".

Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: "Inkl". πŸ’©posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:

Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it's sort of part of the definition...

[–] SomeAmateur 1 points 5 days ago

That way they can't fuck up their legacy like so many public figures do. It's better to have them die first before giving them sainthood, statues or other long term praise

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think there is an inbetween where you not declared saint but basically are declared somewhat holy ready to be sainted once you die.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But he’s already so beautified 😍

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

The miracles are going to be people praying to him to have their claims accepted.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, the Popeis the absolute sovereign dictator of Church dogma, so if he says tomorrow that Luigi is a saint, then all 1 billion Catholics worldwide must listen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Kind of. He is the leader of the church but the congregation of Cardinals also holds a lot of political sway over the office as well and advise the pope on all kinds of matters.

Papal infallibility basically only applies to the interpretation of doctrine and scripture by the papal office.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

'In nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Mora, abnegare et deponere. Amen.'

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was arrested for US healthcare's sins.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And on the third trial he was freed again.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Print it out and put it in your wallet to ward against high insurance rates.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Maybe it will also ward against extra scrutiny from law enforcement. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's almost going to be disappointing if we find out he was framed

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You mean that what appeared to be a meticulously planned and masterfully executed assassination, such that there was little to no usable camera footage wasn't likely to be undone the perp wandering around with a written confession and the murder weapon days later?

I'm shocked there haven't been more conspiracy theories on this.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

It would be the worst kind of mindfuck for him if he was just some radical centrist tech bro who got framed of a crime, sanctified in the public opinion, and then proven to be innocent. Like that's the shit therapists' accountants dream of

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Guilty or not, convicted or not... He is just a symbol either way.

This is about the corruption within US systems esp health insurance.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

You know, I feel like the thousands of people thirsting after him would be a pretty good ego boost at least. Enough to make up for the psychological torture of being framed? Probs not, buuuuuutttt...

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Looks great. But it's a missed opportunity to not have this symbol on his chest:
https://clipart-library.com/img/808303.jpg

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Akshully that's a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It's often confused with the similar Asclepius' staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

You're telling me the Greek symbol for profit is easily confused with the symbol for medicine?

Wow, the Greeks really were advanced!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Asclepius’ staff

Here's a link for anyone else trying to remember the correct image.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are there any more images? This one looks pretty good, but the title promised me multiple images.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you download this image, then that's 2 images.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The copyright industry believes in this one weird trick

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unhinged and I am so here for it. Peace be with you.

[–] slackassassin 14 points 1 week ago

We are all cringe on this blessed day.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (7 children)

People are unironicaly going to use him in religion in the future.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he is a catholic then I pray that he becomes a legit saint for what he did.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why not? Sainthood is an inherently political process. No person becomes a saint without intense lobbying and political pressure. You think Joan of Arc got her sainthood without politics involved?

And while the Catholic Church likes to claim a monopoly on sainthood, it really has no right to that claim. Most early saints were simply individuals that people in a community loved, respected, and later revered. A lot of these early saints were simply canonized officially by the church after they had already been venerated as saints by their communities for generations. There's one saint that is likely just a misremembering of the Buddha. So people could absolutely start venerating him as a saint unofficially whenever they want.

And in the long term, Luigi could even end up an official saint of the Church if the circumstances are right. After conviction and sentencing, he could meet with a priest and confess his crimes in full and formally ask for absolution. And in the doctrine of the Church, that would result in him being fully forgiven for his crime. It's the same way the Church recognizes the sanctity of warrior-saints who spent their whole lives killing. As long as they confessed their sins and asked for forgiveness from God, all is forgiven.

So let's imagine Luigi did that. Suddenly his sins are washed away. Now we just have a man who is effectively a martyr for the thousands of victims of Brian Thompson. If that doesn't a saint make, what does? Sainthood is meant for people who give their lives in the service of others, and that's exactly what Luigi ultimately did. If it weren't for the whole murder part, everyone would consider him a hero. And in the eyes of the church, confession washes away the sin of killing. Now he's an absolved martyr dying for the service others.

Now, for official recognition from the Church, there would need to be some miracles attributed to him after his (likely) execution. But that doesn't seem that hard to get. Tens of thousands of cancer patients praying for the ascended Luigi's intercession? Some of them are going to make a statistically unlikely complete recovery. Won't be hard to get the requisite number of miracles.

I don't imagine the Church would officially recognize Luigi's canonization within our lifetimes. But the Church thinks in centuries. If he decided to make a religious turn and really lean into Catholicism, he absolutely could end up saint, maybe in the 2100s sometime.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If he dies and confesses as you put it, and the situation gets bad enough he could be canonized a lot sooner. Saint Maximillian was beatified barely 30 years after his death and canonized 41 years after his death.

Saint Maximillian Kolbe was a Saint who died in the holocaust during ww2. His story is fucking incredible. The Nazis were gathering people and had a set number of people to take to the death camps... one guy was terrified and begged for mercy, and then Saint Max came in to step in his place. Since the SS officer involved was only concerned with the number of people and not who, he accepted and left the guy alone and took Maximillian in his place.

You basically have someone who willingly sacrificed his life for an absolute stranger he never met before... and you know what is even better? The guy who Maximillian saved not only survived ww2, but also lived to be over 90 years old AND he pointed out at the war's end who was the officer who took all those people to their deaths. The officer was hanged for his crimes in 1946.

We need people who can make that kind of sacrifice. Luigi threw away a promising life to have a shot at the system. He isn't much of a leftist, but that is just a small detail.

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[–] ryedaft 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a halo, not the sun. Because he's a saint.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

on a personal level this is hella cringe but from a social perspective i love this so much

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Merry Christmas Luigi!!!

πŸŽ„ 🎁 πŸ™πŸ»

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