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This implies that all electronic communications are insecure.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Use them anyways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

It's really sad when no one is saying "just talk" 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Defiant semaphore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

act deaf, learn sign language, no one actually bothers to know sign language if they're not deaf or near deaf people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

You can also learn hobo code. Engrave/mark signs in secret places. All you need is a sharp edged rock, a piece of chalk, or even a stick of charcoal.

Banning writing instruments is not realistic unless you’re keeping the entire population indoors in an immaculately clean prison or mental hospital type environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Goo goo ga ga

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I can't imagine how supernaturally thorough you would have to be to prevent written communication.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe stop teaching written language, like the taliban did to women

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Impossible. We will teach each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Learn to read people's minds, a la Pyre

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

I'll get Lil to come over. She's my mother's sister's girl.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I can blink in Morse Code.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I was blinking Torture during Red One

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

mostly speech. probably some looks and gestures till we get somewhere private along with coded speech. symbols, placement of objects.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Morse code thrusts during sex.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

Very deep connections with your fellow revolutionaries, I see. What comaraderie! 🤗

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I communicate by specially timed farting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago

And now, the national anthem

[–] [email protected] 20 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Pen and paper, even it's outlawed people will always find a way to break the law. Of if you want something creative, through songs, poems or dance.

Reminds me of Arnis which the Spanish banned the practice so people created a dance around it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I remember a meme years ago that described how the type, color, number, and arrangement of flowers in a bouquet could be used to convey complex messages. I'll have to scroll through my hoard, but I'll post it if I find it.

But, honestly, as long as there exists a code that is shared between dissenters, and ways to represent discrete elements of that code, communication itself is easy. You could encode anything in a medium that can represent a binary state, like lining up shiny pebbles on your windowsill: two close to each other for a binary 1, or a single one for binary 0. Or you could represent messages by how you hang your laundry to dry. Or embed it into how you play a musical instrument. You could hang Christmas ornaments in your window and use any obvious property to represent a message. You could use a rudimentary radio transmitter to send messages through radio noise. The options are limitless.

The difficult part is maintaining operational security. The limitations presented by human mental capabilities means that a very simple pre-shared secret must be used, which may be leaked or deduced. You have to know where to look, how to decode or decrypt the message, how to respond, and how to do all of that covertly. Prisoners have successfully used hand motions while cleaning their cell window to convey messages outside, apparently for years before authorities caught on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I’ll post it if I find it.

Ping me. Then.

Flower language is great because it is not universal. What a flower mean in your language and country doesn't mean the same in my language and country. And neither of it is made of words !

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Steganography, but with flowers?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

Woodcarving, I'll be passing huge logs with our detailed plans written on it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago

An underground movement forms that uses interpretive dance as a means of steganographic communication. The code is kept secret for plausible deniability. A parallel would be Capoeira, a combat technique developed by Afro-Brazilian slaves and disguised as a form of dance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You live in a dystopian present. What do you say now?

[–] DannyBoy 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is lemmy.world, not everyone is American.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

I say: The only way to fix healthcare is to do what a wise man did and [Redacted by lemmy.world Admins]!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Return to Bronze Age, exchange clay tablets with secret messages in cuneiform. I can fashion a wedge-shaped stylus out of any old stick

Edit: better yet, if we don't fire the tablets, we can destroy them quickly and easily whenever we need to or just recycle them. This was common for a lot of cuneiform tablets in ancient Mesopotamia, and much of what we have found in archaeology is stuff that was unintentionally fired because the building it was in burned down

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

But can you complain to someone for low quality copper?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

What other purpose does man have in life?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

I can, I will, and I shall have my review echo through the ages

[–] neidu3 3 points 19 hours ago

Of course, that's mainly what we are revolting against.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago

You can make pencils with charcoal, paper bark trees are common here.

Also pirate radio, hard but not impossible to conceal its location if you've got a good portable system.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Does this mean toilet paper is banned?

Paper towels are banned?

Food wrappers made wholly or partially of paper are banned?

Is cardboard packaging banned? Does cardboard count as paper?

Are paper sticker labels for shipping banned?

Are paper/sticker labels on all kinds of products not packaged in cardboard banned?

... I am curious as to your answer, but I struggle to concieve of a society where everything is done on electronic devices, but somehow also all kinds of paper and paper based products common to many households and vital to the supply chain and logistics that produces and distirbutes the electronic products are also banned, entirely.

Even if the answer is somehow yes, all kinds of paper based products are banned and replaced with metal or plastic or glass or something...

Clay tablets. Whittle a stick into something that can make impressions on it, bake the tablet, or really any kind of pottery.

Use a knife to etch writing into pieces of thin plastic, or wood.

Use a laser engraver to engrave glass or metal.

Make crude ink or liquids capable of staining on your own from raw ingredients, write on thin fabrics, white fabrics like cheap t shirts or certain kinds of gauze or bandaging, again with a whittled stick, a chopstick, a feather, etc.

You didn't say paint is banned. Spray paint stuff. Make stencils out of thin plastic or metal.

Glue toothpicks to thin plastic.

For any of these methods, you can make up your own language or pictogram / hobo sign style system of symbols to convey whole concepts.

And for most of these methods, the object with the writing or the writing itself on it can be destoryed by fire, immersion in water or pulverization, for more resilient material use a dremel or radial sander/grinder to obliterate the message.

And this is all just homebrew ways to do writing.

Tons of other ways of communicating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

When they ban toilet paper, we'll just communicate using the three sea shells. They can't stop us!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do the right thing consistently. I communicate by example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You mean the example of getting executed?

Sure thing... 💀

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

If I am executed for disobeying a rule worth dying to disobey, then sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I'll graffiti large dicks everywhere, with charcoal and chalk if I can't get paints, as means of communication

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Signal messaging app.

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