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[–] [email protected] 395 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this is starting to be horseshit. Every windows computer has a version of fucking solitare on it , there are other card based games that don't get this treatment, and the lootboxes are actual gambling.

I thought at the start it was a type of beurocratical problem, but it's been too long.

[–] [email protected] 160 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Not entirely sure about the European PEGI, but the American ESRB is funded by the same companies that it regulates. It was created after the outcry about violent games and was the industry self-regulating to avoid the government getting more involved.

It is a lobby group for the industry, for better and in this case very much for worse.

I assume PEGI is little different.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

PEGI and many other groups are private groups. They're not an authority of any form. They're not associated with government, public regulation, or public election. They're a group of people that create their own standards outside of the ISO or any actual regulation representing the public.

Some countries do have actual public systems, but many just have these private groups that know best.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is all well and true, but it's important to note that these organizations exist as a sidestep to regulation, they are formed by industry insiders as a promise to the regulators that they will be honest about how they rate games (or movies or music) so that the government doesn't actually get involved and do it's job.

It's a form of regulatory capture that allows the industry itself to decide what is harmful to us.

It's basically the definition of conflict of interest.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

To clarify: the ESRB is the rating arm. The ESA that runs it? That's the lobbying arm.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 5 months ago (5 children)

They haven’t understood the game at all, I wonder if they even looked at it for more than two minutes

Run game > see playing cards and poker chips > close > PEGI 18

[–] [email protected] 96 points 5 months ago

They're not looking into blatant gambling in AAA titles, of course they won't take a closer look into an indie game. They're completely useless.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ah, but there are also tarot cards, which is spooky Occult voodoo magic. Balatro backwards might spell "Satan is Lord" in some ancient druidic script.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He probably forgot to funnel millions of dollars to non-profits and businesses adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Windows comes bundled with solitaire. How is it allowed in schools?

[–] [email protected] 142 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse

[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now...

[–] iAmTheTot 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This isn't really new. Solitaire has had ads for over a decade now since Windows 8, and there is a monthly premium subscription to remove them. As I understand it they also don't show during offline play, but might be wrong about that.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Offline play? It's SOLITAIRE. Offline play should be the ONLY play, by default.

Feeling like I took crazy pills this morning...

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[–] vaultdweller013 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Why, how, the fuck do you add microtransactions to fucking solitaire?!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Step 1: Add ads into [insert app of choice here] that are really annoying

Step 2: Make people pay to get rid of them. Bonus points if it's a subscription

Step 3: People hate your app but it's the one that's installed by default so they use it anyway

Step 4: Profit

[–] vaultdweller013 27 points 5 months ago

The fact that this business model earns moneu rather than car bombs annoys me.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck PEGI, their ratings always sucked and weren't useful at all. Full blown swearing? 13+. One cigar through 500 hours of gameplay? Adults only. Never cared, never will.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Violence and gore? 13+. Some boobs? Adults only.

Killing good, love bad.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

If anybody knows about love it's rimjob_rainer.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish lawmakers had some balls on this subject. If there's gambling, they should have to register as a gambling company and comply with all the other restrictions on gambling advertisements in each jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

The problem here is that Baltaro does not have gambling. It just uses cards and chips as the basis for playing the game. Like Magic the Gathering or Inscryption.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Using chips is even a stretch honestly. There are some chip imagery here and there but otherwise 'chips' are just how points are called.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hngh. Balatro already had a bunch of hassle on Switch eShop due to the PEGI ratings change.

Earlier, Nintendo somehow got a PEGI 12 rating for 51 Worldwide Games, which includes poker and blackjack. I wonder what they argued to avoid the 18 rating. "Sure, this compilation has poker and blackjack, but it's not like we made it fun." (It's adequate but compared to Balatro it's very much a non-frills experience.)

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Balatro is a hard drug worse than heroin. We need to protect our kids from the bottomless pit of roguelite games

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank God it's ten dollars.

I almost downloaded it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

If you've ever spent money on a movie theatre ticket, you value your time at $7-$20 dollars an hour. This... is thousands of hours of entertainment.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Gotta love how they saved the literal slot machine for a minute in to the video so it wouldn't be too obvious.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Why is he still using Twitter? Does he want a bunch of Nazis replying to him?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

Because, unfortunately, millions of people still use it. If you're selling a product, it's in your best interest to have as much social media presence as possible.

Also, it's better to have an official presence on those platforms so others can't impersonate you as easily.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Reminds me of that Australian law that was proposed to make anything with a relation to casino games Restricted 18 but merely mature for exploitative slot machine loot box mechanics.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I haven't seen Loot Boxes in a game in awhile, I kinda prefer those to FOMO...

I think the perfect system is you earn Loot Boxes by playing that can contain anything, but you can buy the specific things you want at any time, the boxes themselves are unlocked through gameplay.

Heroes of the Storm did this, and god I miss that game.

I wish DBD did it

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

let's just do like all parents buying the last Call of Duty to their 10-year-old and just don't give a fuck about PEGI.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

Might as well go all in on that new rating.

Balatro 1.5 Patch Notes.

  • All the Jokers now hang dong.

  • Big naturals Queens are worth double.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Are all game rating systems just complete and utter garbage? Dare you to find a good one.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

NBA 2K literally had slot machine in it. System is corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I'm hopelessly addicted to gatcha. When I saw this I bought Balatro.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

When I was young I always wondered why the nhl games had a 16+ rating and Fifa had 3+. Figured both of them where ordinary sports.

Apparently fighting automatically shoots that nhl rating to the same level as GTA and balantro.

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