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It's good to see journalists willing to make a correction
Correction: This post originally stated that Elon Musk had donated over a quarter of a million dollars to elect Trump and other Republicans in last month’s election. It was over a quarter of a billion dollars. Specifically, $277 million, according to CBS News. Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.
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This is great stuff and he's set out a very clear blueprint for deterrance. He's putting Corporate America and Big Health Insurance on a PIP so looking forward to everyone doing better :)
Nice to finally throw their goddamn motherfucking bullshit rulebook right back at them and force a Medical New Deal on them
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Look how the pig is squeezing his neck, pretty hard from the looks of it. If Trump or his cronies were ever arrested they would set up a press box and microphones
I'm astonished that this is the only comment about that, it's the first thing I noticed.
In modern societies that grip is reserved for violent junkies, wriggling and foaming at the mouth
Yet nobody blinks an eye
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Funny how this is constantly being censored on reddit and likely other social media. I don't think the oligarchs like the message.
[ Removed by Reddit ] being on the frontpage for hours despite being expunged near-instantly is morbidly funny. The absence is speaking louder than the silence
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Editorialized title. Please restore the original article title. He has not personally released or confirmed this document.
Edit: op has fixed the title
A manifesto supposedly found with him at the time of arrest has been "leaked" selectively without any confirmation from the man himself on whether it is legitimate or not. I still find the entire rapid stack up of evidence far too convenient for the police looking for an easy win to appease capitals interests in making an example out of a "fringe lone extremist".
It's possible the bag with the monopoly money contained more evidence the police didn't tell us about, so they could plant it on their fall guy.
I assume the “Indecipherable” words are expletives? Maybe “fucking” and “assholes?”
Obviously, we'd need to see the handwriting, but just from context:
"United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart."
Should be "fourth". Fourth largest company. Unless he has a fun modifier on it like "fourth fucking" or "fucking fourth".
Ahh, that makes more sense. They’re big but not the largest.
i like the idea of using indeciperable as a euphemism to replace expletives. this should be generally adopted imo.
"i have the worst indecipherable luck!"
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What proof is there that this is legit? I've seen dozens of alleged versions of the manifesto. This one doesn't have any other source than "trust me, bro".
I thought there was only one impersonation (which was attacked since it didn't have the quotes that the NYT had extracted from their unreleased copy).
About a possibility of a hoax: Klippenstein has a fairly reputable history of uncovering/reporting on leaks, but this situation is essentially a
Ken: Here's the document guys.
Other news websites: Looks like Ken has the document!
Gizmodo flying a bit close to the libel laws in that article.
Despite saying they can't confirm it's genuine, then saying stuff like " it’s pretty clear that Mangione was motivated by the tremendous injustices regularly perpetrated by the healthcare industry in the United States."
Was he? Did he write those words? Is he the shooter? Doesn't this kind of reporting compromise the chance of a fair hearing?
Surely he deserves the right to a trial before being found guilty, as per the Sixth Amendment?
I don't think this qualifies as a manifesto. Definition requires that it be public, not found on someone: A public declaration of principles, policies, or intentions, especially of a political nature.
The word “manifesto” makes it seem more sinister and clickable.
People call something a "manifesto" when they want to imply that it's a long rambling text written by a crazy person.
Look at the dumb cops in the picture with so little self-awareness that they think they’re on the same side as the CEOs.
A pair of fucking stooges.
Quick and to the point. Is there anything this guy isn’t good at?
Keeping a low profile while on the run, allegedly. :x
McDonald’s really should use this opportunity to release a “too irresistible” ad
Controlling the media narrative. Or at least that's my fear. Just finished watching "Interior Chinatown" and surprisingly relevant commentary on the "media spectacle". It expects violence but it won't just let you tell your story.
Disposing of murder weapons.
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interesting that he mentions social engineering in the manifesto. makes me think he lured the CEO somehow and that's why he knew exactly when the target would be there. he waited for like 5 minutes before the CEO showed up, that was unrealistically precise if all you had was public information.
It could simply mean he checked his public social media and knew where he would go. Social "engineering" can be as simple as a web search.
I could stalk a lot of people with 5 min accuracy, easy. Most people have schedules and routines. It's not rocket science.
That's OSINT not SE
well that would tell him the conference starts at 8am or something. based on that he could guesstimate maybe the CEO will arrive 1~2 hours before. but to narrow it down to 5 minutes? i think he would need something more.
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I don’t think this is complete. I read that police found a 3 page manifesto. That’s a long paragraph at best.
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You're correct in that the NYPD said that it was a "handwritten, three-page document" -- I found it odd too -- but, the "document" could've been on one of those mini notebooks, or in large print, or scrawled.
From another perspective -- if the transcription is incomplete, then Klippenstein either (1) omitted text by his own hand, (2) could not acquire the entire document but was unaware that he hadn't, or (3) did not acquire the entire document but withheld his report's weakness of breadth.
I'm not sure Klippenstein's incompleteness is very likely
I don’t think that journalist is lying. I just wondered if the leaker released the full document to him or if they gave him this and said that was it.
I suppose it could be whatever was in the notebook.
Handwritten can sprawl real quick
It references that...
This is some post he made somewhere, and it explicitly says there's more info in the spiral notebook.
A tangent: On r/interestingasfuck, a post (np link) about Klippenstein's report was removed in less than an hour, but has continued to skyrocket in upvotes, fueled by comments alone
(As of this comment, first removal complaint was 2 hours ago, but post was made 3 hours ago.)
Curious if this a reddit-wide thing (i.e. implemented by oligarchs) or something specific to that community.
It's reddit wide. Under any story about Luigi if the link to the manifesto gets posted it gets removed.
It's indeed Reddit-wide. Rather than being moderator-specific, it's admin-enforced.
- r/interesting (np)
- r/WitchesVsPatriarchy (np) (if a mod were to expunge it, it wouldn't be these)
To qualify what you mentioned, I've seen the manifesto itself successfully pasted and kept up for 15+ hours, but not the link to it. (just CTRL+F for "indecipherable" in either the r/interestingasfuck or r/WitchesVsPatriarchy threads)
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No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it.
[indecipherable] here is spicy, the entire sentence is build around it
He originally wrote "sons of bitches", then scratched it out and wrote "mother fuckers", then replaced that with "sick bastards". The final version reads "low-life shit-sucking corpocunts".
Or so I imagine.
Or maybe he called put somebody a bit more specific... And that person doesn't want to be called out like that.
I am speculating here though.
He, like all programmers I know, probably tried to write oligarchs and just sucks at spelling.
Thanks for saving me embarrassment spell checker!
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Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.
XD
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