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This is why you should put Christmas lights on a palm tree.
Ancient civilizations celebrated the human body. We are ashamed of it.
Oh, what we have lost.
The tree thing has nothing to do with Christianity.
It's just another pre-existing tradition (from the Roman Mithras-cult), that was co-opted to ease people's adoption of the new religion.
The Mithras cult did not have any particular attachment to trees, you are probably confusing it with Saturnalia. But even then people did not bring a single solitary tree in, Saturnalia was celebrated by decorating rooms with many evergreen plants and branches as was common in a lot of winter solstice celebrations. The act of bringing in a single evergreen tree and decorating it came much much later, medieval times.
There's not much point in arguing over who started using evergreens in Winter solstice parties.
I mean I'd be very interested in knowing the true origins of solstice parties, as I strongly suspect they predate homo sapiens. Definitely predate writing, by a lot.
The Mithras cult gets far too much credit for these things. We know very little about them. Almost everything you've heard about them was made up.
The modern Christmas tree tradition goes back a few hundred years to central Europe.
Same with the Easter bunny.
I thought it was the Norse thing. But that might have been the stockings
It's because decorating an evergreen tree is a Yule tradition that has nothing to do with Jesus.
Wasn't he, quite famously, born in Bethlehem?
Also it wasn't renamed Palestine until more than a century after his death
Even if you weren't lying... You mean 2000 years ago, right? Even by your own imaginary history...
I'm not sure I follow what you are saying. Maybe you're thinking of a different Jesus? I assumed we were talking about Jesus of Nazereth, who was a Jew born in Judea, according to the best historical information available.
Do you mean that there is a minority of historians who contend that there never was such a person? Of course that's true. In any case, he certainly could not have been a Palestinian. That would be like calling Catherine the Great a Soviet. It makes zero historical sense.
Yes, i mixed it up and corrected it, thank you.
I personally don't care because I'm not religious and Christmas is just a day to hang out with people I like, but I do enjoy throwing this out there whenever Christmas trees are mentioned in a religious capacity.
Jeremiah 10
1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jesus would have been against Christmas trees. Paul probably would have loved them fuckers, though.
I don't know how many other churches do this, but the one my parents took me to when I was a kid would pass out palm branches on psalm Tuesday, with the reasoning for the ritual being how in some Bible story I forgotten most of they laid palm branches down in front of someone like a red carpet.
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