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[–] [email protected] 130 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I am hanging on to my 1080p Samsung for dear life. It is about 12 years old, but the picture quality is still fantastic with LED backlighting and it has -- get this -- no smart "features".

[–] TriflingToad 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just want a big monitor. just display the pixels and I'll be happy

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Someone a while back on a thread not dissimilar from this one suggested looking into commercial display screens. A kind of BYO solution to the smart TV problems.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (9 children)

The nice thing about Samsungs is that basically all their remotes work with all their TVs, so I just found one without the smart button so I can't tell that mine is smart, and I obviously never connected it to internet. I think it's a lot cheaper than trying to get a commercial dumb TV too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Weren't Samsung TVs the one that would connect to neighbors TVs and stuff and find other ways to connect to the Internet?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Thought that was Hisense... Could be both actually.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I feel the exact same way about my 42" 1080 Sony Bravia. It's heavy as fuck, so I had to hang it on the burliest monitor arm I could find, but it was built like a tank and the picture quality is still great. Bonus - since it's not a flat panel, the built-in speakers are more than decent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't know about new ones, but you're right older Bravias are built like tanks. I got a 40" LED that's, uh, more than 15 years old now. Survived 5 rental moves, covered in nothing but cling wrap and chucked at the back of me car.

I have no idea what to do when it eventually breaks...

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My 1080p plasma is still going strong. Sure there’s burn in but it’s had it since I got it and it’s a real big dumb tv. Dreading moving the monstrosity across the country, but it was the perfect price and I don’t want to drop a ton of money on a new tv during a time of uncertainty.

I will say my oled steam deck has made me want a better tv, but I can wait for it.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"Oh, those little straps on the controllers? Yeah, don't worry about those."

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just remove them just in case.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago

Choking hazard

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think those are in the back pocket

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Oh yes! Well spotted!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

"Dad the game is telling me to put it on my wrist"

"Yea only if you're a coward"

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (3 children)

For real though: it's easier to convince the wife if the old TV can be sold to make the space and get some money to put towards the new one. TVs can last for decades and it'll be a long time if you're waiting for it to get "broken".

[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 days ago

TVs can last for decades and it'll be a long time if you're waiting for it to get "broken".

Don't worry, they're making them cheaper and less reliable by the minute!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

TVs can last for decades and it'll be a long time if you're waiting for it to get "broken".

Ummm.....who wants to tell him?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

He is correct tho. Unless we are talking about some more expensive tvs. Ironicaly more expensive tv dont last as long Beacuse they have more cutting edge experimental technology ( early OLEDs for example ).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Maybe if you're paying the Samsung/Sony/LG premium

But the cheap brands most people buy like TCL and Hisense, cut corners everywhere they can so that they can hawk a 75" "4K" TV for $400. They usually die in < 5 years and it'll probably be, at least one of, the LED backlight strips. They're damn near almost made to be "disposable"

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[–] TriflingToad 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

old TVs last forever. After our decade old one finally bit the dust My family got a fancy ass huge 4k Samsung one and it died in like 3 months. No physical damage, it just stopped turning on 🤷‍♀️
Replaced it with a cheap 1080p one from Walmart and it's been doing well.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago

Teaching kids how to be capitalists: create a demand by obsoleting early.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I miss my LG Plasma. Sold that dude with the house because it was super heavy and I was too lazy to unbolt it from the wall. Still regret that decision.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

This is just an admission of guilt by the author. :D

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I thought the punchline was that the Wii still works, so it hasn't been replaced either lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We played that board game island thing in Wii Party last night. Rock solid, after ... 16 years? Wii for life, people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have it on good authority that if you don’t Wii for too long you die.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Just brought ours back out for Tanks in Wii Play. Solo, or VS, that game is still great

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Mine still works. It survived two wives and four kids (and me).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (8 children)

For real though, I'm rocking 1080. Is an upgrade to 4k worth it?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Depends on screen size and distance. Here's a nice graph:

I do recommend an OLED or QLED, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Doesn't really look like it then, though all the OLED and QLED were 4k.

It did make me wonder what quantum led means though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Perfect answer. For most people, no. I actually did make the jump to a 4k TV and sit close enough to it that I can visibly see the difference. About 8 feet from a 65" TV, still barely in the "Ultra HD Worth It" category.

It truly is ridiculously large for the space, everyone who visits us comments on it. My wife likes to joke when we watch Make Some Noise that the people are "life size". If you don't have a small living room and aren't planning at least a 65" or larger TV, than it's almost certainly not worthwhile.

Crazy to me that most AAA console games push 4k as the standard at the expense of 60FPS, given these realities.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

For me, it does, granted what other people said OLED you'll notice more than 4k. But ultimately it depends on what you like. If fidelity is your thing then go for it. If you don't care and are happy, then no need to rush

[–] andrew_bidlaw 5 points 5 days ago

It is on work PC due to app scaling. On TV it greatly depends on it's quality, the quality of a source video and so on. Since I lucked into have an okay display, and mostly watch old 720-1080p shows and movies I never cared to update my TV, but since enormous 4k torrents are popular I guess people do seek and enjoy them. See if you have some friends with it and try watching a movie with them to know if you care about the difference.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

do you have any source that would provide 4k content? I feel like even 720p is good enough at a decent bitrate. But it also depends on the size of the screen and the distance to it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Xbox 360 Kinect vs Wii motion games, which one is superior and/or your favorite?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

The kinect and even PSMove had great potential, but they never did anything that really stuck out. The wiimote was mostly used for one thing across multiple games: wiggle it and get a function that a button also did more reliably. That said they somehow released multiple titles that stuck with people for a long time, even some of the shovelware type games that actually used motion tracking were kind of fun. Meanwhile with Kinect, while microsoft still actively supported it, you almost exclusively had shovelware type experiences but they had the word Kinect in the title. Even Disney joined in. Those games were unapologetic garbage and largely didn't function, even with plenty of time setting up a kinect play space.

It took years after the kinect was no longer popular/supported for developers that actually wanted to do something with it to arise, with Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator. Hilarious results. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1507780/discussions/0/3192486000805884901/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I never played a Kinect game that was actually good.

I would like the hardware for other reasons, though. It's a great FBT system for VR.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

My wife brought a 37" Vizio into the relationship she got in 2008. It still works great. It's now hanging on the wall in the bedroom (and requires a special bracket because it doesn't have the VESA specified mount). We have a FireTV that allows us to stream television to it. It has survived two moves, plus being relocated in the house a few times.

So I'm with the guy in the comic - waiting for it to break could take forever.

Our living room TV and Blu Ray player are from that very short time period where you could get a 3D TV setup that uses passive polarized glasses, not active shutter glasses. (We've only ever watched one movie in 3D on it.) So even that is at least 9-10 years old at this point.

Obviously I'm not big on getting the latest and greatest TV, but if you wait until it's broken, it could be a while, in my experience. I'm generally with the wife on upgrading things, ie after they break, but for some things, that might not be a viable plan (or, the reward is worth it).

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